Found this in Campy Q&A (http://www.campagnolo.com/qea_search.php?gid=all&cid=5&pid=11&key=comp&rev=1):

"Can I use the old chain whip (sprocket removal tool) to remove the 10s sprockets from the hub?

Absolutely not. The 10s cogs have a much narrower spacing and require a dedicated tool with the ultranarrow 10s chain (UT-CS060). The old chain whip would damage the sprockets because the chain is too wide."

Can anyone confirm or refute this based on your own experience? I've got two Campy 8-speed bikes in the garage (along with a couple of older chain whips) and a new 10-speed bike about 4-5 weeks out. I need to know if I'll really need a new narrower chain whip, and if so, anyone have any cost-effective suggestions?

Thanks!

Found this in Campy Q&A (http://www.campagnolo.com/qea_search.php?gid=all&cid=5&pid=11&key=comp&rev=1):

"Can I use the old chain whip (sprocket removal tool) to remove the 10s sprockets from the hub?

Absolutely not. The 10s cogs have a much narrower spacing and require a dedicated tool with the ultranarrow 10s chain (UT-CS060). The old chain whip would damage the sprockets because the chain is too wide."

Can anyone confirm or refute this based on your own experience? I've got two Campy 8-speed bikes in the garage (along with a couple of older chain whips) and a new 10-speed bike about 4-5 weeks out. I need to know if I'll really need a new narrower chain whip, and if so, anyone have any cost-effective suggestions?

Thanks!

BS! Just use your existing whip up on the higher (bigger) sprockets. I have an Eldi whip that I've been using for 10+ years and it works fine on Shimano and Campy 10v.

BS! Just use your existing whip up on the higher (bigger) sprockets. I have an Eldi whip that I've been using for 10+ years and it works fine on Shimano and Campy 10v.

+1 on this. I've used a standard (8-9 speed) chain whip on my Campy 10 stuff without problems plenty of times. Likewise on Shimano 10 speed stuff.

Just pick a larger cog where the chain is not pinched between cogs.

Al

Any 9 speed chain will fit between 10 speed cogs. If the chain on your whip is wider, it's not hard to remove it and replace with a piece of old 9-speed chain. My chain whips are home made, from back in the days of 6/7 speed freewheels. I later changed the chain to a 9 speed. Works fine.

none sense.

they just want to sell your their own $100 chainwhips. you won't damage the sprockets, particularly not if you put your whip around the largest sprocket.

I use the 1/8" pitch chain whip that I bought around 18 years ago to use on my track bike. I have used it on 6-10 speed freewheels/cassettes. I put it on the biggest cog. I hope this doesn't make me a bad person. I had a regular road pitch one but lost it in a move about 15 years ago.

better to use the chain whip on the smallest cog, not the biggest. I have an old 8 speed whip, and it fits nicely over the 12 on my shimano 10 cassettes.
locking the smallest cog (according to Amclassic) helps to prevent damage to aluminium freehub bodies, esp if the lock ring is done up super tight.
in any case it provides a more direct connection between the opposing tools, making it easier to undo the lock ring.

better to use the chain whip on the smallest cog, not the biggest..

But the bigger cogs are usually fastened together with two other cogs on a common carrier that spreads the pressure out over a larger area on the hub shell. Many small cogs are individuals. I'll stick with the bigger ones.

Al

Thanks for the confirmation all.

I thought I was smelling some serious "buy our expensive tools" BS pretty strongly. I always feel better when 10 people with real experience validate my own assumptions!

better to use the chain whip on the smallest cog, not the biggest. locking the smallest cog (according to Amclassic) helps to prevent damage to aluminium freehub bodies, esp if the lock ring is done up super tight. in any case it provides a more direct connection between the opposing tools, making it easier to undo the lock ring.

My goodness! I've been doing it wrong for a decade! I'm surprised I haven't ripped my aluminum freehub apart! :)

Another good barometer is Park Tool. If they don't sell it, it's not needed (generally speaking). They don't sell a chain whip with a 10spd chain.

Ditto. I got my Park chain whip back in the 6 speed days. It works just fine on my 8 and 10 speed Campy.