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Bocephus Jones II 04-09-2007, 12:20 PM Imus is a moron, but why is it that everytime someone makes a bad racial remark they feel the need for absolution from this goon?
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/09/imus.ap/index.html
rocco 04-09-2007, 01:16 PM Did you happen to see the South Park episode With Apologies to Jesse Jackson? ...priceless.
http://lads.myspace.com/videos/vplayer.swf?m=2016155505&type=video&a=1
-- I can't remember if an episode titles should be in quotes or if they should be underlined... damned early onset dementia.
spyderman 04-09-2007, 02:40 PM Imus isn't funny. He should resign just for that fact alone.
atpjunkie 04-09-2007, 02:47 PM I got this Ranch for kids with Cancer.......
turns out kids with Cancer get it for a couple weeks a year
rest of the time it's Imus' tax deductible playground
Bocephus Jones II 04-09-2007, 04:13 PM Imus got suspended for 2 weeks...
I always like to hear the offensive comments in full context--you have to wonder what the hell Imus was thinking or if he was drunk though it sounds like his producer (McGuirk) was the one who called them "ho's" first and later in the exchange just keeps it going. Offensive and racist? Sure...but nothing to get all freaked about IMO. Sharpton should just let this go. I wonder if what he meant to say was "gangstas" which might have been slightly less offensive--then again the "nappy headed" thing is hard to defend.
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DON IMUS: So, I watched the basketball game last night between -- a little bit of Rutgers and Tennessee, the women's final.
SID ROSENBERG: Yeah, Tennessee won last night -- seventh championship for [Tennessee coach] Pat Summitt, I-Man. They beat Rutgers by 13 points.
IMUS: That's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos and --
BERNARD McGUIRK: Some hard-core hos.
IMUS: That's some nappy-headed hos there. I'm gonna tell you that now, man, that's some -- woo. And the girls from Tennessee, they all look cute, you know, so, like -- kinda like -- I don't know.
McGUIRK: A Spike Lee thing.
IMUS: Yeah.
McGUIRK: The Jigaboos vs. the Wannabes -- that movie that he had.
IMUS: Yeah, it was a tough --
CHARLES McCORD: Do The Right Thing.
McGUIRK: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
IMUS: I don't know if I'd have wanted to beat Rutgers or not, but they did, right?
ROSENBERG: It was a tough watch. The more I look at Rutgers, they look exactly like the Toronto Raptors.
magnolialover 04-09-2007, 05:45 PM Imus got suspended for 2 weeks...
I always like to hear the offensive comments in full context--you have to wonder what the hell Imus was thinking or if he was drunk though it sounds like his producer (McGuirk) was the one who called them "ho's" first and later in the exchange just keeps it going. Offensive and racist? Sure...but nothing to get all freaked about IMO. Sharpton should just let this go. I wonder if what he meant to say was "gangstas" which might have been slightly less offensive--then again the "nappy headed" thing is hard to defend.
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DON IMUS: So, I watched the basketball game last night between -- a little bit of Rutgers and Tennessee, the women's final.
SID ROSENBERG: Yeah, Tennessee won last night -- seventh championship for [Tennessee coach] Pat Summitt, I-Man. They beat Rutgers by 13 points.
IMUS: That's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos and --
BERNARD McGUIRK: Some hard-core hos.
IMUS: That's some nappy-headed hos there. I'm gonna tell you that now, man, that's some -- woo. And the girls from Tennessee, they all look cute, you know, so, like -- kinda like -- I don't know.
McGUIRK: A Spike Lee thing.
IMUS: Yeah.
McGUIRK: The Jigaboos vs. the Wannabes -- that movie that he had.
IMUS: Yeah, it was a tough --
CHARLES McCORD: Do The Right Thing.
McGUIRK: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
IMUS: I don't know if I'd have wanted to beat Rutgers or not, but they did, right?
ROSENBERG: It was a tough watch. The more I look at Rutgers, they look exactly like the Toronto Raptors.
Possibly Imus and his cronies have been saying extremely rude and racist things for years on end, and this was just the straw that broke the proverbial back and all. It's not the first time that he's been caught saying severely racially insensitive things, but this was pretty bad. Especially since he singled out one very specific group of basketball players, collegiate athletes and all. I think he's lucky he just got suspended. It's not about being PC either, it's about doing what's right, and saying what's right. He didn't.
Fredrico 04-10-2007, 11:09 AM Imus got suspended for 2 weeks...
I always like to hear the offensive comments in full context--you have to wonder what the hell Imus was thinking or if he was drunk though it sounds like his producer (McGuirk) was the one who called them "ho's" first and later in the exchange just keeps it going. Offensive and racist? Sure...but nothing to get all freaked about IMO. Sharpton should just let this go. I wonder if what he meant to say was "gangstas" which might have been slightly less offensive--then again the "nappy headed" thing is hard to defend.
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DON IMUS: So, I watched the basketball game last night between -- a little bit of Rutgers and Tennessee, the women's final.
SID ROSENBERG: Yeah, Tennessee won last night -- seventh championship for [Tennessee coach] Pat Summitt, I-Man. They beat Rutgers by 13 points.
IMUS: That's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos and --
BERNARD McGUIRK: Some hard-core hos.
IMUS: That's some nappy-headed hos there. I'm gonna tell you that now, man, that's some -- woo. And the girls from Tennessee, they all look cute, you know, so, like -- kinda like -- I don't know.
McGUIRK: A Spike Lee thing.
IMUS: Yeah.
McGUIRK: The Jigaboos vs. the Wannabes -- that movie that he had.
IMUS: Yeah, it was a tough --
CHARLES McCORD: Do The Right Thing.
McGUIRK: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
IMUS: I don't know if I'd have wanted to beat Rutgers or not, but they did, right?
ROSENBERG: It was a tough watch. The more I look at Rutgers, they look exactly like the Toronto Raptors.
Black brothers can get away with "ni@@3r" and "nappy headed hoe." Spike Lee gets away with "jigaboo." Why does a white humorist have to come across like some Baptist minister? The context of the quote above is lighthearted banter about a certain contrast between two women's basketball teams, one hard and flinty, the other sweet and "southin'." They even gave their respects to Spike Lee. Sometimes, guys like Sharpton are a bit over-sensitive to humorous candor about their race. They should get over it.
Those "politically correct" censorius network types are only afraid of losing ad revenue. They're acting like old women who never get out and have lost their sense of humor. That's the truth of the matter, not what actually was said. He apologized. Now let's move on.
magnolialover 04-10-2007, 06:02 PM Black brothers can get away with "ni@@3r" and "nappy headed hoe." Spike Lee gets away with "jigaboo." Why does a white humorist have to come across like some Baptist minister? The context of the quote above is lighthearted banter about a certain contrast between two women's basketball teams, one hard and flinty, the other sweet and "southin'." They even gave their respects to Spike Lee. Sometimes, guys like Sharpton are a bit over-sensitive to humorous candor about their race. They should get over it.
Those "politically correct" censorius network types are only afraid of losing ad revenue. They're acting like old women who never get out and have lost their sense of humor. That's the truth of the matter, not what actually was said. He apologized. Now let's move on.
Walk some miles in their shoes, and then tell them to "get over it".
That's probably the most disrespectful thing a person could say to black folks. Get over it. That's pretty bad I think. Get over what? The inherent racism still present in White America today? Get over years of being repressed? What exactly is it you want them to "get over"?
And the "black brothers" as you say, don't get away with it. There are plenty of critics of rappers, musicians, entertainers in the black community that don't feel like these folks in positions to make a positive influence are not doing so. I reference just one rant by Bill Cosby if you remember how he railed against rappers, and others who use the "N" word, and other references that make black folks look bad.
There is no room for sense of humor when you have someone who has high powered politicians on his show and has millions of listeners every week making racist, and misogynistic comments for "humor". He's not a comedian, and his comments were not funny.
On the other hand, Imus has apologized, profusely, and I think he's sincere, really sincere about it. I will be interested to see when he comes back after his suspension if he keeps up with his racist comments. I think that he has done the right thing in going on Sharpton's show, and now he's going to meet with the Rutgers team itself. I think we can move on from this, but your total dismissal of the whole thing, and telling people to "get over it" is just poor form. Think about what you would do if your daughter was called a prostitute by someone on a radio show. I'm sure that you wouldn't "just get over it".
Snakebit 04-10-2007, 06:32 PM Walk some miles in their shoes, and then tell them to "get over it".
That's probably the most disrespectful thing a person could say to black folks. Get over it. That's pretty bad I think. Get over what? The inherent racism still present in White America today? Get over years of being repressed? What exactly is it you want them to "get over"?
And the "black brothers" as you say, don't get away with it. There are plenty of critics of rappers, musicians, entertainers in the black community that don't feel like these folks in positions to make a positive influence are not doing so. I reference just one rant by Bill Cosby if you remember how he railed against rappers, and others who use the "N" word, and other references that make black folks look bad.
There is no room for sense of humor when you have someone who has high powered politicians on his show and has millions of listeners every week making racist, and misogynistic comments for "humor". He's not a comedian, and his comments were not funny.
On the other hand, Imus has apologized, profusely, and I think he's sincere, really sincere about it. I will be interested to see when he comes back after his suspension if he keeps up with his racist comments. I think that he has done the right thing in going on Sharpton's show, and now he's going to meet with the Rutgers team itself. I think we can move on from this, but your total dismissal of the whole thing, and telling people to "get over it" is just poor form. Think about what you would do if your daughter was called a prostitute by someone on a radio show. I'm sure that you wouldn't "just get over it".
I have heard the words he used but I think I would have to see the show and hear them in context to make a judgement. Were they racist or a parody of racism? If they were racism, he deserves everything that has happened. If it was a parody with no intended disrespect, everyone should, indeed, just get over it.
Fredrico 04-10-2007, 07:18 PM Walk some miles in their shoes, and then tell them to "get over it".
That's probably the most disrespectful thing a person could say to black folks. Get over it. That's pretty bad I think. Get over what? The inherent racism still present in White America today? Get over years of being repressed? What exactly is it you want them to "get over"?
And the "black brothers" as you say, don't get away with it. There are plenty of critics of rappers, musicians, entertainers in the black community that don't feel like these folks in positions to make a positive influence are not doing so. I reference just one rant by Bill Cosby if you remember how he railed against rappers, and others who use the "N" word, and other references that make black folks look bad.
There is no room for sense of humor when you have someone who has high powered politicians on his show and has millions of listeners every week making racist, and misogynistic comments for "humor". He's not a comedian, and his comments were not funny.
On the other hand, Imus has apologized, profusely, and I think he's sincere, really sincere about it. I will be interested to see when he comes back after his suspension if he keeps up with his racist comments. I think that he has done the right thing in going on Sharpton's show, and now he's going to meet with the Rutgers team itself. I think we can move on from this, but your total dismissal of the whole thing, and telling people to "get over it" is just poor form. Think about what you would do if your daughter was called a prostitute by someone on a radio show. I'm sure that you wouldn't "just get over it".
In the context of a Spike Lee movie, the characters being black, the conversation between Imus and his cronies would have sounded lighthearted and funny to the blacks I hung out with in Longview, Texas a few years ago. They could have had the same exchange, in exactly the same words. The women might have smirked, but they would have brushed it off. They used the n word all the time to describe their brethern, usually in the third person, as a term of endearment, like "guy" or "chap." A guy would say "Ho" meaning he thought a girl was attractive. Of course, I couldn't use those terms, being a white guy, because I wasn't born into their same circumstances. As far as they were concerned, I was a visitor from Mars.
The thing about humor is that it changes with the times. What might have been funny 10 years ago isn't necessarily funny now. The Rutgers girls interviewed tonight obviously didn't think Imus was funny. These middle class black college girls were a few steps removed from the "hoes" Imus confuses with the "rough girls" with "tatoos" they watched playing the game. His comments were tasteless, and revealed subconscious racist opinions he has about blacks, specifically black women, but they weren't seriously disrespectful in the context of the banter quoted above.
He was just trying to be hip, and blew it, for which he apologized. They can accept his apology as their ancestors have done countless times from white people, and forgive him. End of case. Let him go.
I just read your post in my e mail, Snake, and I agree.
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