View Full Version : Western Union "Over-payment" scam alert


Rockbottom
07-05-2004, 10:06 AM
I have a pair of XTR rear wheels for sale on MTBR.com

I was contacted by Lawma Neo e-mail address is lawma_neo1982@graffiti.net.

He offered to send a payment of $4980, for two wheels I am asking for around $400 bucks. He even offered to buy them for $950 and an extra $300 for my troubles and shipping. But wire him the balance to him the same day I receive the money order. You will find out in about 4-5 days the money order is fake and you will be out the difference.

He never asked about the wheels themselves, he was more interested in my personal information: address-phone number etc.

It sounded to good to be true, please be careful if this a#@hole tries to purchase products from you.


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treebound
07-06-2004, 01:23 PM
Once the check/m.o. arrives hand it over to the postmaster where the p.o. box is along with printouts of all correspondence between you and the other party.
Do not say you will sell him the wheels or agree to his terms, just tell him to send the money order to your p.o. box.
All will be taken care of after that point.
If he then replies about the shipment put him off for two or three weeks, keeping the postmaster informed, then let him know that you've turned the matter over to the authorities since there might have been a problem with the check/m.o.

Or just tell him to bugger off and suggest he take up a more honest profession.

DaveT
07-06-2004, 03:50 PM
I have a pair of XTR rear wheels for sale on MTBR.com

I was contacted by Lawma Neo e-mail address is lawma_neo1982@graffiti.net.

He offered to send a payment of $4980, for two wheels I am asking for around $400 bucks. He even offered to buy them for $950 and an extra $300 for my troubles and shipping. But wire him the balance to him the same day I receive the money order. You will find out in about 4-5 days the money order is fake and you will be out the difference.

He never asked about the wheels themselves, he was more interested in my personal information: address-phone number etc.

It sounded to good to be true, please be careful if this a#@hole tries to purchase products from you.


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This is a common scam, typically being run from a number of African countries, primarily Nigeria. Seems that every school kid is doing it now.

There's not much you can do about it, except not fall for it. Anytime anyone wants to overpay you and trust that you will Western Union the excess funds to them, well........hmmm.......SCAM!!

The US Secret Service is the government organization that is handling the Nigerian scams, but unless and until (very unlikely) the perpetrators set foot on US soil, there's not a whole lot that can be done.

See threads on similar scams here: http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?t=4521

http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?t=1612

Dave_Stohler
07-07-2004, 01:58 AM
Once the check/m.o. arrives hand it over to the postmaster where the p.o. box is along with printouts of all correspondence between you and the other party.
Do not say you will sell him the wheels or agree to his terms, just tell him to send the money order to your p.o. box.
All will be taken care of after that point.
If he then replies about the shipment put him off for two or three weeks, keeping the postmaster informed, then let him know that you've turned the matter over to the authorities since there might have been a problem with the check/m.o.

Or just tell him to bugger off and suggest he take up a more honest profession.

Since the scammer is in Nigeria, and we don't have an extradition treaty with them, the postmaster won't be interested in handling it. They can scam from Nigeria with total impunity.

No, the best thing to do is bait the scammers. Tell them to send the check, but do so quickly since another person also wants the wheels. The scammer will pay $50-60 for overnight shipment from Africa, and you can do whatever you wish to with the fake check. Take a pic of you burning it and send it to him just for laughs. It's loads of fun-i've done it twice already!

Back in Lagos, Mr. Scammer is out $60. Maybe it's out of his pocket, or maybe some scam overlord fronted him the money, and now Mr. Scammer is gonna lose some teeth. You can only hope....

DaveT
07-07-2004, 02:25 AM
Since the scammer is in Nigeria, and we don't have an extradition treaty with them, the postmaster won't be interested in handling it. They can scam from Nigeria with total impunity.

No, the best thing to do is bait the scammers. Tell them to send the check, but do so quickly since another person also wants the wheels. The scammer will pay $50-60 for overnight shipment from Africa, and you can do whatever you wish to with the fake check. Take a pic of you burning it and send it to him just for laughs. It's loads of fun-i've done it twice already!

Back in Lagos, Mr. Scammer is out $60. Maybe it's out of his pocket, or maybe some scam overlord fronted him the money, and now Mr. Scammer is gonna lose some teeth. You can only hope....
Good job Dave! You do the same as I do, scam the scammers. Except I keep the checks with the idea of doing something artsy-fartsy with them at some future point.

Mearstree
08-01-2004, 02:34 PM
I just recently received a reply to my add from the same exact person. What I make of the whole thing is that he wants you to wire the specified amount the same day you receive his check (meaning you'd be sending your own money with the mere assumption that his check will clear)....but it won't!! I'm not an idiot....that must be who he's after. When I told him that I was going to wait for the check to clear (5-7 business days) I never heard from him again. I called the FBI to inform them (they are part of the government agency that fights internet fraud)...turns out they are very aware of this scam. They also told me that it is a bunch of Nigerians. I faxed over all of the emails I had received/sent. You should do the same.

Powerstroker
08-02-2004, 04:17 PM
I just recently received a reply to my add from the same exact person. What I make of the whole thing is that he wants you to wire the specified amount the same day you receive his check (meaning you'd be sending your own money with the mere assumption that his check will clear)....but it won't!! I'm not an idiot....that must be who he's after. When I told him that I was going to wait for the check to clear (5-7 business days) I never heard from him again. I called the FBI to inform them (they are part of the government agency that fights internet fraud)...turns out they are very aware of this scam. They also told me that it is a bunch of Nigerians. I faxed over all of the emails I had received/sent. You should do the same.

This guy is really brutal with these scammers.

http://ebolamonkeyman.com/

Dave_Stohler
08-02-2004, 09:56 PM
......... I called the FBI to inform them (they are part of the government agency that fights internet fraud)...turns out they are very aware of this scam. They also told me that it is a bunch of Nigerians. I faxed over all of the emails I had received/sent. You should do the same.

First of all, the FBI has no jurisdiction or powers of extradition in a country that we have no extradition treaty with, such as is the case with Nigeria.

Secondly, why bother wating your time faxing stuff over?? This type of scam is done thousands of times each day, without a single Nigerian scammer ever having been extradited. Your faxes are a waste of time, paper and bandwidth. They probably have a dedicated machine that feeds straight into the recycling bin...

No, if you want to hurt the scammers, you have to screw them yourself.

Picshooter
08-15-2004, 10:53 AM
The Nigerian scam with the person selling horses?