View Full Version : Jörg Jaksche Spiegel article translated from German to English


bas
07-02-2007, 08:57 AM
Looks like it came out translated pretty cleanly by babelfish.

http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=de_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fspiegel%2F0%2C15 18%2C491585%2C00.html

The Tedinator
07-02-2007, 11:04 AM
Pretty cleanly??? Reading that made my eyes bleed! :D

bas
07-02-2007, 11:09 AM
Pretty cleanly??? Reading that made my eyes bleed! :D


You can't make sense of this?? :idea:

MIRROR: Why did you dope?

Jak: Do not wheel-drive actually is beautiful. It always does pain. The sport is connected to physical pain with very much pain. Training is the attempt to increase your efficiency in such a way that you do not become suspended, and thus there so pain-done, was not only it Kortison, then Epo, and today there is fresh blood. Wheel-drives is a difficult sport. As soccer players one can run 90 minutes long like a nincompoop over the field, then shoots you in the extension the crucial gate and is a hero. In the cycle racing one becomes suspended with 99 of 100 running, even if you give everything. It does pain, the whole time, and one has nevertheless only rarely success.

rogger
07-02-2007, 11:12 AM
All your Rennradfahrer are belong to us!

terzo rene
07-02-2007, 12:14 PM
and who is this January Ullrich - Jan's sister?

dagger
07-02-2007, 01:31 PM
I have a .pdf copy of Der Spiegel and can't read it. The website only gives us a couple of paragraphs.

dwwheels
07-02-2007, 01:37 PM
Looks like it came out translated pretty cleanly by babelfish.

http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=de_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fspiegel%2F0%2C15 18%2C491585%2C00.html


Based on that translation, I say "let him steer wheel-drive in the French Alps to look for fresh blood".

AJL
07-02-2007, 01:43 PM
All your Rennradfahrer are belong to us!


LOL! Great line :)

bas
07-02-2007, 02:00 PM
I have a .pdf copy of Der Spiegel and can't read it. The website only gives us a couple of paragraphs.

I saw all 5 pages.

Hit FURTHER at the bottom for NEXT ;)

32and3cross
07-02-2007, 02:15 PM
actually I found this version pretty funny to read.

Einstruzende
07-02-2007, 02:39 PM
Yea but what's the details? He naming names?

Dwayne Barry
07-02-2007, 04:17 PM
Yea but what's the details? He naming names?

Only some...

Anecdote about doping talk with Voigt in the peloton after Festina bust in '98.

Pretty much nails Stanga (Polti), Godefroot (Telekom) and Saiz (ONCE) as running teams that organized the doping. He says at ONCE he just gave his arm to the doctors and heaven knows what they were putting in his body. CSC seems different maybe not team organized, although he says Riis clearly knew riders were doping. Claims to have told Riis after winning Paris-Nice in '04 that he had got his result and would not risk doping the remainder of the season.

If I understand, He says Saiz stopped working with Fuentes after doping positive (Heras at '05 Vuelta?) but when Vinokourov wasn't getting what he wanted after signing for Saiz's team, Rominger (both the manager of Vino and Jaksche) intervened and "forced" Saiz back to Fuentes. Soon after, the OP bust occured.

Typical everyone doped so no one was being cheated talk and without doping you can not compete.

Dwayne Barry
07-03-2007, 05:50 AM
Pretty much nails Stanga (Polti)...

Apparently despite his protests that plenty of riders would say he ran a clean team, another rider had already gone to authorities a couple of years ago about Stanga. Ruggeiro Torraco told authorites that he was forced to buy EPO and hormones when he rode for Stanga's Colpack team. Torri will consider these accussations as well when Stanga comes before CONI.

joehartley
07-03-2007, 09:04 AM
This article cracks me up, especially being able to understand why the grammar errors were made...I love that Jaksche is referred to as "it" the whole time...kind of silence of the lambs type stuff.

"It puts the needle in its skin, or else it gets the broomwagon again."

JohnnyChance
07-03-2007, 06:56 PM
"It puts the needle in its skin, or else it gets the broomwagon again."


hahaha.

terzo rene
07-03-2007, 07:56 PM
Rather disappointing after Jaksche's attorney said he would name names. The omerta apparently still rules and it seems the only thing accomplished is we learned how to spell his name.

OTOH, he may be naming names in private testimony and just not doing so publicly. If not his hopes for a reduced sentence would appear to be nonexistent and since he's reportedly still training 6 hours a day perhaps there is something going on behind the scenes.