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    Found Bike on Craigslist, Cannot Date it.

    Hello!

    First, I would like to thank you for taking the time to read this.

    On to business: The bike shown on the link below in on Craigslist for about $180. The seller says:

    Cannondale Racing Bike Model R400 Blue
    Shimano 105 Componentry
    12 Speed
    3.0 Series Aluminum Frame 50 cm
    Good Condition
    New Tires
    Complete Tune up

    http://images.craigslist.org/3G13Fe3...201a4a1398.jpg

    Before I go look at it and make sure it will be a good fit, I wanted to try to figure out what year it was made. However, I have had no luck with the old Google machine.

    Any tips on whether this would be an acceptable deal if it fits are warmly welcomed!

    Any help is greatly appreciated!


    -goose.

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    Is a good place to start. Post in the Cannondale section would be another.


    Get the serial number and go to Vintage Cannondale - Information and Catalogs for Cannondales

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    What he says ^^^. But with bikes this old (my guess is around 1988), condition matters much more than age—there are no "used bike lists" or a "Blue Book" for bikes. And of course, it has to fit. You should know that 50 cm is a very small bike. It does look like an extremely well-preserved example of a late-80s Cannondale.
    Last edited by wim; 05-10-2013 at 08:47 AM.

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    I looked at catalogs going back to '85 and I think this is older.

    And wim is correct. This is a bike for a quite small person.
    There's sometimes a buggy.
    How many drivers does a buggy have?

    One.

    So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
    and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM

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    My opinion - and I'm not saying the bike isn't worth a look - but a 28+ year old aluminum frame is worth next to nothing. Same goes for the components, so I wouldn't go much above $100 on this bike, if that.

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    I'm in total agreement with PJ352. If he'll take $50.00-$75.00 for it, you might want to tinker around with it if you're into that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slitespd View Post
    I'm in total agreement with PJ352. If he'll take $50.00-$75.00 for it, you might want to tinker around with it if you're into that.
    Not likely. Those old road-racing Cannondales sell on Ebay routinely for anywhere from $200 - $400. Not sure exactly why, but it's a fact. As to age: it's no older than 1988. Cannondales with the cantilevered rear dropout (see photo) didn't appear in stores until 1989.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wim View Post
    Not likely. Those old road-racing Cannondales sell on Ebay routinely for anywhere from $200 - $400. Not sure exactly why, but it's a fact. As to age: it's no older than 1988. Cannondales with the cantilevered rear dropout (see photo) didn't appear in stores until 1989.
    That makes two of us, wim, and similar holds true for CL. And while it's good to pin down a year, the frame is still aluminum and still two (plus some) decades old. In (my) reality that translates into "worth next to nothing". Same goes for the components. Could be DA, but decades old is decades old.

    In this instance (IMO), it's all about the life cycle - mainly of the frame material (alu).

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    My apologies on the year. I'd started at '88 and went back thinking it was older.

    That style of rear dropout was introduced in the 1989 Model year. And the fact that it's 6 speed, dates it to that year. They all went to 7-speed in 1990.

    Here's the '89 catalog: http://www.vintagecannondale.com/year/1989/1989.pdf
    There's sometimes a buggy.
    How many drivers does a buggy have?

    One.

    So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
    and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ352 View Post
    In this instance (IMO), it's all about the life cycle - mainly of the frame material (alu).
    That's true. Plus the fact that unlike steel, aluminum fails quickly. The time from crack initiation to complete failure can be as short as hours.

    The intriguing thing is, though: this 1989 or so frame may have experienced so few life cycles that it's practically new. As you know, thousands of race-type bikes get bought every year with good intentions, only to get hung up in garages and never ridden again after the first 100 miles. Of course, you never know if this ^ guy is is one of those.

    But lest you think I'm advertising this bike: the cantilevered dropout models are the less desirable ones, the original Tange steel fork (which this ^ bike has) will rattle the fillings out of your teeth, and the down tube shifters are universally hated by anyone under 30. :-)

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    Thanks!

    Thanks for all of your responses! Super helpful!

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