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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    Heh...30mm tires? On "Gravel"? At best maybe dry and hardpack MMR with some limestone or flint sprinkled on it.....and even that is presuming it doesn't get bedded in a valley in your tire, one chunk of gravel and those wheels are locking up and/or doing damage to your $3,500 frameset.
    I think the fact that it fits 28mm tires makes people draw the conclusion that we somehow decided this was going to be an endurance or mixed surface bike. We created the EXPLORO last year to bring an offering for those folks looking for tire clearance. The EXPLORO has road geo, the shortest chainstays you can put on a 2x frame with 142mm OLD and fits 55mm tires.

    The STRADA is not a replacement for the EXPLORO. Wider tires are faster, the STRADA is simply made to be faster for a given input. 1x is not for everyone yet no one draws a line in their experience with 2x systems and recalls the revelation in moving from 2x9 to 2x10. Most road 2x systems have a ~350% range. If you are looking for range 1x has a far greater spread than what you can find in a 2x configuration.

    I've spent a bunch of time on a 44t with a 10x42t and I'm currently riding the Strada with a 52t and 11-36t. I've become a fan of the 1x approach.

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    For me, my bike could be as aero as possible but when the engine is the antithesis of aero....it ain't going to matter.

    From mtb world all I knew was 1x. I thought 1x would be just fine on road/gravel. I can tolerate some space between gearing but I think that has more to do with me being new to the road. While I really do not like having a front D I've gotten very cozy with the Ultegra on my Domane.

    The more road miles I ride the more anal I become about my cadence and gearing. I would feel stripped if it were taken away and all I had were 1x.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Strongbow View Post
    They just took every trend and tried to cram it all on one bike without regard to how much sense individual trends make when combined with each other.

    It's like a food company doing marketing research and seeing that pizza and ice cream are trending up so figuring Ice Cream Pizza makes sense.
    Yep, this pretty much. So much rubbish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superdave3T View Post
    I think the fact that it fits 28mm tires makes people draw the conclusion that we somehow decided this was going to be an endurance or mixed surface bike. We created the EXPLORO last year to bring an offering for those folks looking for tire clearance. The EXPLORO has road geo, the shortest chainstays you can put on a 2x frame with 142mm OLD and fits 55mm tires.

    The STRADA is not a replacement for the EXPLORO. Wider tires are faster, the STRADA is simply made to be faster for a given input. 1x is not for everyone yet no one draws a line in their experience with 2x systems and recalls the revelation in moving from 2x9 to 2x10. Most road 2x systems have a ~350% range. If you are looking for range 1x has a far greater spread than what you can find in a 2x configuration.

    I've spent a bunch of time on a 44t with a 10x42t and I'm currently riding the Strada with a 52t and 11-36t. I've become a fan of the 1x approach.

    -SD
    Hey, Superdave:
    Will Challenge Paris-Roubaix open tubulars fit on the Strada (Spec is 27mm but in practice 30-31mm, depending on the rim.)? I just love them on my Felt Z4. I have them on Zipp 30 Course Disc wheels. Next bike could definitely be a Strada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDI Hoo View Post
    Hey, Superdave:
    Will Challenge Paris-Roubaix open tubulars fit on the Strada (Spec is 27mm but in practice 30-31mm, depending on the rim.)? I just love them on my Felt Z4. I have them on Zipp 30 Course Disc wheels. Next bike could definitely be a Strada.
    Thanks for your message and inquiry. If you have the tires and wheels in questions just measure the cross section. I'm able to run 28mm Continental tires on my Strada with about 3mm of clearance to the frame. This is not enough for ISO and EN rules but it's fine in practice. The tires measure 30.8mm at 75psi.

    The Challenge tires will stretch over time so be aware of that caveat.

    -SD

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    Thanks Superdave! The Challenge Paris-Roubaix tires on the Zipp 30 Course discs measure 31 mm exactly at 80 psi after about a year of use. I really miss having you at the Felt forum, but having you with 3T makes is much easier to buy a Strada 3T and components. Companies underestimate the value of having experts available for questions like these. Zipp and SRAM and Quarq have figured this out with great phone support and easy part availability and fast shipping. Fulcrum, handled by Campy in the USA, has not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDI Hoo View Post
    Thanks Superdave! The Challenge Paris-Roubaix tires on the Zipp 30 Course discs measure 31 mm exactly at 80 psi after about a year of use. I really miss having you at the Felt forum, but having you with 3T makes is much easier to buy a Strada 3T and components. Companies underestimate the value of having experts available for questions like these. Zipp and SRAM and Quarq have figured this out with great phone support and easy part availability and fast shipping. Fulcrum, handled by Campy in the USA, has not.
    If you ever have a Felt question I'd be happy to answer them and I'm still in contact with many of the staff there if you need me to forward and request for parts or inventory. It's a good crew.

    I think you'll find that a 31mm will fit in the frame, it just may not be practical and it will fall outside the minimum ISO clearance of 5mm. Let me know if you need help sourcing the STRADA. Our first two months of inventory have been sold out and I've nearly completed placement of all the November inventory so it is likely you'll need to find a retailer with one in stock if you're buying before Dec inventory arrives at our office.

    -SD

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    ....and it ended up being road.cc's superbike of the year. Congrats 3T.

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    I donít like it at all and I donít see much innovation actually - BUT I love that they managed to create some excitement about a new bike in the Pro Peloton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashadabd View Post
    ....and it ended up being road.cc's superbike of the year. Congrats 3T.
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    Thanks for the acknowledgement. It's been a dream-launch with so much attention given to the fact we're not hedging on what undoubtedly is the future of road bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashadabd View Post
    ....and it ended up being road.cc's superbike of the year. Congrats 3T.

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    Yeah. Iím sure that didnít cost them anything. Iíll stick with my close gear ratios and rim brakes thank you very much. Donít see how hanging MTB stuff on an aero road bike frame counts as innovative. Weíll see how the Aqua-Blue riders like either spinning their nuts off or mashing big gears like it was 1990.
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    Well it cost us the same as all the other bikes in the test. They had to actually get the bike to test it. Do you think they bought the Specialized or was that free to test as well? You can stick with your close gear ratios, that's what the road market has prescribed to for the last 30 years but recently the products that are in demand are those that offer wider range of gearing, not close steps. Hanging MTB stuff on the frame is a stop gap as the frame is a bit ahead of the component makers who are rushing to fill the large void in the 1x road market. It'll come. The Aqua Blue Sport riders have the same range as they had last year. It was 53/39T with 11-25t or 11-28t and 11-30t on some alpine stages. Now they'll use a 9-32t cassette with a 40, 42, 44T chainring depending on the stage profile. A 2 x 11s system has about 14 or 15 unique gear combinations. They'll get by with 11 combinations and the same overall range. The cassette has "clusters" of cogs with small gaps, either at the top of the range or the bottom depending on the course profile and finish. With that said, these adaptations are for the 0.001% of cyclists to use when they compete at the highest level. For a hack like me I'm gruntled with my 50T ring and 11-40t cassette and MTB rear derailleur. It's not what keeps me off the podium.

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