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    Quote Originally Posted by TrippHolt View Post
    bvber,

    is there a specific part of the version 6.0 you are trying to direct me to? The first links brings me to page 1 and the second link is apparently forbidden.
    That's odd. It works fine from my end via Firefox browser.
    Here's first link: Chinese Carbon Thread and Ebay direct version 6.0 (post #5397)
    Second link: Chinese Carbon Thread and Ebay direct version 6.0 (post #5450)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvber View Post
    That's odd. It works fine from my end via Firefox browser.
    Here's first link: Chinese Carbon Thread and Ebay direct version 6.0 (post #5397)
    Second link: Chinese Carbon Thread and Ebay direct version 6.0 (post #5450)
    Links work with IE but not Chrome :-(

    Thank you for the links. Now I'm more scared to go the China route, and will definitely stay away from velobuild (I never liked the thought of paying more for a nicer website anyway).

    Won't paypal buyers protection protect me if there is an issue with the frame?

    Greatkeen seems to have good reviews, and working with Jerry is fine (as long as I only ask one question at a time). Has anyone purchased from them lately?

    What other options should I be thinking about besides BB type, frame size, and finish?

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    Direct deal from Dengfu, ZhongWei, FLYXII and Hongfu are said to be reliable. I've had positive experience with ZhongWei direct.

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    Well im getting closer to deciding on a frame. I like the FM098 but I am unsure on long days in the saddle with this geometry? I also like the VB-R-022. Both geometries seem like I could make them work. Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msedbaue View Post
    Well im getting closer to deciding on a frame. I like the FM098 but I am unsure on long days in the saddle with this geometry? I also like the VB-R-022. Both geometries seem like I could make them work. Any thoughts?
    I was leaning more towards the GKRF01 but since the VB-R-022 is ~$150 cheaper, I may change my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrippHolt View Post
    I was leaning more towards the GKRF01 but since the VB-R-022 is ~$150 cheaper, I may change my mind.
    Have you read this ?
    https://i.reddit.com/r/bicycling/com...eatkeen_bikes/

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    Thinking of going down the chinerallo route.
    Any suggestions of companies to use? been looking but there are so many. greatkeen or dengfu but any others that are trusted?
    cheers and sorry if this has already been covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattgall View Post
    Thinking of going down the chinerallo route.
    Any suggestions of companies to use? been looking but there are so many. greatkeen or dengfu but any others that are trusted?
    cheers and sorry if this has already been covered.
    mattgall, that is exactly what we are discussing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailflow View Post
    trailflow, I had not seen that... thank you. I may ask Jerry for references from recent purchases.

    FYI to everyone. China is on holiday right now for May day. They will be back to work on May 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrippHolt View Post
    Hey All,

    I'm new to RBR, but I've spent the last few weeks reading posts from version 4,5,6. There is a lot of great info, but it seems like the majority of the info I'm interested in is over a year old.

    Background: I ride a 58cm 2012 CAAD10. Initially bought the 105 version, but I have been upgrading components as I go. I train hard, and like to race. I prefer the sprints and breakaways instead of the mountains and despise bringing my bike to the bike shop... It always comes back worse then when I dropped it off, so I do all my own wrenching.

    I just finished building my 45mm U-Shaped wheelset and I love them... They ride great, and feel faster than my stock aluminum wheels.

    At this point I'm ready to leave my CAAD10 attached to the turbo and I'm looking at building my first (of many hopefully) Chinese OE bikes.

    I'm pretty sure that I've decided on the "Venge" style frame *SHOCK* (It seems to be one of the most common builds on here), but I was hoping to pull from the vast wisdom on RBR to help me finish this project.

    So first things first, what does the collective wisdom say about supplier quality? I'm looking at GreatKeen's GKRF01 (with graphics removed) or Dengfu's FM098. Does anyone have feedback regarding issues with the frame or issues working with the suppliers? Is there another supplier that you all would recommend?

    Thanks in advance!
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    If you want best for you, just stay away from seller HK Feifan, Joshan, Chinesswalton, Kobe1234 or I don't know which names he also has, since they are well known for changing names after couple of 10 sold frames, etc. in order to cover tracks.
    I had a claim for my frame ans I still don't heard from him except with the last e-mail from him old at least 10 days with which he basically told me "F**k off, I am in China what can you do to me"
    Stay with reputable sellers and specially avoid the ones which are selling counterfreights, since that kind of sellers don't have any integrity or good "faith" to do honest business.
    Last edited by Jakak; 05-03-2015 at 12:19 AM.

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    ok. it seems to be a mine field and if you look on alibaba or aliexpress i find some are free shipping and some are 85 usd but the frames are the same price? is there a difference in quality of these frames?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattgall View Post
    ok. it seems to be a mine field and if you look on alibaba or aliexpress i find some are free shipping and some are 85 usd but the frames are the same price? is there a difference in quality of these frames?
    All replicas are crappy quality, maybe you find some good, but generelly they don't pass almost any QC while reliable sellers all have QC. If you are lucky you get a decent frameset also as replica, but relying on luck when you are descending 80 kmh is stupid if you ask me.
    P.S. Show me one which succesfully managed to claim replica frameset or wheelset or any other part? ...This process with chinese sellers of replica frames is like

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    So you are saying that all of them are bad? all chinese carbon is rubbish? i have som chineese carbon light bicycle rims that i use on my nomad, guess what after a year of trashing them, oh no damage. yes i could of paid 800 GBP per rim for enves and got the same result but i was happier paying 188 usd each.
    Are you talking from actual experience?
    As ive seen from the many forums there are more positives than negatives.
    yes all are fully aware that the difference between a branded frame, made in china too probably, will or should have a much more stringent QC but i have witnessed these high cost branded frames break, crack too. Biking at high speeds is inherently dangerous no matter who makes tour frame.

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    He's talking about counterfeits i.e. frames and parts with fake graphics and logo's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RVA View Post
    Went with the Velobuild r-022 frame as velobuild got great reviews
    A lot of that has to do with the fact that the Velobuild site owner heavily moderates the site, deleting negative posts and bans forum members without warning for posting as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RVA View Post
    Went with the Velobuild r-022 frame as velobuild got great reviews

    Got great review where ? How are you liking rolling on it, and how long/miles has it been rolling If I may ask?

    Thanks

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    I have an R-002 with a few thousand miles on it. No complaints other than I cut the steerer too short and need to replace the fork.

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    Anyone had any dealings with mudking?

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    Hi, I have seen people interested to buy the HongFu FM296 carbon frame. I have found that Miracle have also the same Fame MC296, and they specify T800 carbon and lower weight. I am believe that HongFU have the T700 and the t800 version available also and I am waiting for a price to compare.

    Anyone, have order yet. I have ride the FM-069 frame on a short distance on a short distance and the steering is very fast, and the frame is very efficient but could be a bit more absorbing for long distance ride. Of course, my friend is heavier than me and is probably very happy. HongFu sells this frame as T1000 carbon, and DengFu have the same but specify T800 carbon.

    Anyone a assemble and ride a FM296 or MC296 and can give us feed back on the ride quality ?

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    i have been waiting since octobre last year for a new frame from Jerry

    Jerry at Greatkeen is a joke, also Leanne one of his sellers ive been waiting since October last year.

    He basically said most people buy a new frame if the first one breaks withing the 2 years and i sell them it for half price WTF so why have a warranty then ???

    anyway have a look at this and if you do manage to get intouch ask him wheres my replacement frame .

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Great...03718279764682

    now a happy caad10 rider

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    Quote Originally Posted by pommieyeti View Post
    Jerry at Greatkeen is a joke, also Leanne one of his sellers ive been waiting since October last year.

    He basically said most people buy a new frame if the first one breaks withing the 2 years and i sell them it for half price WTF so why have a warranty then ???

    anyway have a look at this and if you do manage to get intouch ask him wheres my replacement frame .

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Great...03718279764682

    now a happy caad10 rider
    Thank you Yeti. How was the quality originally?

    Also, the greatkeen website now requires a password. My spidy senses are telling me to stay away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pommieyeti View Post
    Jerry at Greatkeen is a joke, also Leanne one of his sellers ive been waiting since October last year.

    He basically said most people buy a new frame if the first one breaks withing the 2 years and i sell them it for half price WTF so why have a warranty then ???

    anyway have a look at this and if you do manage to get intouch ask him wheres my replacement frame .

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Great...03718279764682

    now a happy caad10 rider
    From the earliest days I started researching China carbon (about 3 years ago), I've heard mixed reports about greatkeen. Mixed meaning some transactions were ok, while others were a nightmare. Long ago I decided to stay away. Enjoy your Caad10!

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    Everyone will have different experiences with different sellers. I suspect most of the Aliexpress sellers get their stock from the same wholesalers, it's just how much they try to charge.

    I purchased a Pinarello Dogma from greatkeen when Cavendish rode for Sky in his WRC colours. Never had any issues, maybe a little over spray in the BB threads but thats common, even chucked it down the road in a spill on diesel at 20mph+ and all good....arse not so!!!

    I purchased an F8 frame from a seller on Aliexpress, really happy with it but had an issue with a cable stop on the frame, the seller would not respond to any emails, was more than willing to pay for the part as the bike was no use without, eventually gave up, spoke to Jerry and and they provided the part i needed for 3, so after care on someone elses product, they get a thumbs up from me.

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    Hi Everone,

    I' thinking of starting the process of buying a CX frame from Dengfu.

    Does anyone have a recent, successful contact address for them?

    Many thanks

    DP

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    Hi all,

    Just to update that nearly 5,000 km on my FM186, I am pleased to say that the frameset does not disappoint and my cycling experience has been great and a few PBs on Strava achieved through this frameset.

    The BB86 does give some level of stiffness though not overly and the seatpost clamp arrangement is effective and simple. It does not feel twitchy and the wheelbase gives a good amount of stability.

    Shenzhen Miracle provides excellent customer service and patient with my customization requests. Definitely a nice buy if you are looking for an aero frame.
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