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    Favorite alum/ti frames

    What are the best/your favorite alum/ti frames out there?
    Criteria:
    1) race-able (weight and geo)
    2) disc brake (thru axle)
    3) less than 2k (or only slightly above if it's really cool)

    My list at the moment:
    Twin Six Standard Ti Road
    CAAD12
    Trek Emonda ALR (2019)

    I'm assuming there is going to be a lot of bikes released soon that could fall under this list but are only in rim brake versions now (van dessel, spooky, low?)..

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    BMC Teammachine ALR disc fits the description too, not sure how easy it is to find a dealer for a frame though.

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    Frameset only for under 2k or a complete bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwisimon View Post
    Frameset only for under 2k or a complete bike?
    Looking to start with a frameset.

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    start here Not a full on race geometry but get on the drops and it's a racer. not that common stateside.
    https://masoncycles.cc/products/definition-frameset

    https://road.cc/content/review/23842...-ultegra-hydro

    If you want Ti and a bit racier Lynskey Helix Sport Disc Titanium Road Frame 2017 | Chain Reaction Cycles It has the thru axel at the rear as well.

    https://www.ridley-bikes.com/project...-disc-ultegra/
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    Those both look good! I started on a Klein Quantum, bought into the top line carbon frame mindset and moved over there for a bit. None of them ever really felt as special to ride, sort of dull/hollow rides versus the Klein which would just seemingly beg you to go faster. I guess I'm looking for something like that Klein in disc form now..

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    Klein Quantum was a great frame. You lucked out getting your start on one. How's your flexibility compared to those days? What size do you ride?

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    I still have it but some stress cracks keep it hung up on the wall. Flexibility is pretty good. Usually ride an XL type frame (6'4''), target is usually about 58-59tt and a stack of 59-61.

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    I've just gone to a Bowman Cycles Palace:R frame to replace a Cervelo S2 frame that I managed to damage on a ride recently.

    Far less than $2k, race geo (originally a Crit bike), but no discs.

    Fairly well regarded in the UK (very much compared to the CAAD12) and took Road.cc's best frame award last year. I am duly impressed so far. The geometry is actually fairly similar to the S2 I was on previously. If discs are not a make-it-or-break-it thing, I'd say it is worth considering.

    Bowman also has a disc frame, but it's not quite as racy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MercRidnMike View Post
    Bowman also has a disc frame, but it's not quite as racy.
    Yes I think most "racers" want rim brakes. Endurance bikes with taller head tubes and more upright positions get the discs. It's a hard one to get in alloy, carbon not so tough.

    https://www.ridley-bikes.com/project...-disc-ultegra/ in case you missed it

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    I used to be a rim brake die-hard, but a turning point for me was descending guanella pass on rim brakes in a rain/hail/thunderstorm, completely terrifying... You may be right that carbon is the way to go just because there are so many more options out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wradom View Post
    ... You may be right that carbon is the way to go just because there are so many more options out there.
    Do you have a groupset all ready to switch across? Otherwise buying a complete bike might be better value. Have fun.

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    Not a complete groupset, but I think half the fun of getting a new bike is taking your time and getting each part one at a time slowly seeing it come together.

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    I really like my CAAD 10. Light and responsive. The only issue with it was the BB, and it took some doing to sort that out.

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    Cost a bit more but Eriksen for ti and Allied for carbon

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    Personally, I will scratch the twin six and CAAD12 from your list

    Reason : Thru axle

    I think thru axle is the future for disc brake bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by redstarcap View Post
    Personally, I will scratch the twin six and CAAD12 from your list

    Reason : Thru axle

    I think thru axle is the future for disc brake bikes
    I think that you might be right, but the drawbacks could be a big deal if you're racing or in a major hurry. It takes longer to swap wheels and you can ruin a frame or fork if not threaded correctly. Plus side is you have a better chance of having that disc dialed correctly the first time. and from what I've been told, it's stiffer than QRs. Still I wouldn't omit those bikes from my list. Thru axle or not, they are exceptional machines.

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    I've always been the mind that if I flat during a race I'm fixing the flat and riding back to my car (unless it's an ultra mtb event, in which case fix it and keep riding) so swapping time isn't a big deal..

    "Plus side is you have a better chance of having that disc dialed correctly the first time." this is dead on, not sure if it's really 'stiffer' but its more worry free in my mind.

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    Only ti frame I’ve ridden is my old Serotta Fierte, and it rocks. Best bike I have ever owned, and I’ve had a few.


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    Disc brakes weren’t as prevalent when I was last playing in this segment, so the Specialized Allez Sprint and old Caad10 were probably my all time favorites. Given your disc brake requirement, I really like the new Trek Emonda ALR. It seems like a great value for what you get and I have heard a number of people rave about their newer aluminum frames.
    Every climb has its end, for verily with difficulty there is relief...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wradom View Post
    What are the best/your favorite alum/ti frames out there?
    Criteria:
    1) race-able (weight and geo)
    2) disc brake (thru axle)
    3) less than 2k (or only slightly above if it's really cool)
    imo the best/my favorite alum/ti frames out there don't have disc brakes or thru-axles and definitely don't cost less than $2k.

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    But now I'm curious, what are they?

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    All I'm really looking for is a Klein Quantum (my example below) with thru axle disc brakes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wradom View Post
    All I'm really looking for is a Klein Quantum (my example below) with thru axle disc brakes...

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    Litespeed, Alchemy, and Moots have some great models like that, but you’re not getting them for $2000 and probably not for $3000. Giant, Cannondale, Trek, and Specialized seem to have the best values when it comes to aluminum with disc brakes. Mason has a bit of a cult like following for their Bokeh and some of their other aluminum bikes. Ridley’s aluminun bikes ride a little harshly, but are plenty stiff and fast. My guess is you would probably be happy with any number of those.

    Like others have said, there are lots of $2000 carbon bikes that meet your preferences out there now too, including the new Tarmac Disc Sport, Giant TCR Disc, Trek Emonda or Domane Disc, etc. Everybody basically produces a disc equipped race bike these days and most have a model for under $3000.
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    I prefer the classic straight horizontal tube look, but the Allez disc was released just a few hours ago and it really hits all my targets on the head (even if it's not 'classic'). I'm sure Cannondale will follow soon with a thru axle version of their CAAD12.. Vynl is bound to come forward with a disc version at some point too.. "My guess is you would probably be happy with any number of those." -this is true.

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