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    Headset repair Urgetn Help requested

    Hi.. I could open the headset..but not sure whether all the parts are out .. The Bearing on Fork looks as in photos and I believe bearing seat is inside the Tube... I hope this is fine and can go ahead greasing and Re fitting. Headset repair Urgetn Help requested-headset-.jpgHeadset repair Urgetn Help requested-headset-b.jpg

    Also, I did not find any irregularity in the bearing and works like smooth.

    p.s. I opened because the steering was getting stuck .

    Thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlight View Post
    Hi.. I could open the headset..but not sure whether all the parts are out .. The Bearing on Fork looks as in photos and I believe bearing seat is inside the Tube... I hope this is fine and can go ahead greasing and Re fitting.

    Also, I did not find any irregularity in the bearing and works like smooth.

    p.s. I opened because the steering was getting stuck .

    Thanks...
    How can it work smooth and get stuck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by duriel View Post
    How can it work smooth and get stuck?
    You are right. The steering was getting stuck. But as I opened both the bearings and cleaned out. Now both looks smooth and did not find any dent.. But I am not sure if I have missed out removing any part..? I can see some part in the tube at both ends.. Just wanted to confirm if the part i removed which is visible on the fork is complete..?

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    I see 1 fork, with a caged bearing assembly sitting on the lower race. Ever considered reading a book about bike repair?
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    The bearing races from the picture look to be very worn, but it could just be the reflection. The races should not have any up or downs in them as you go around the circumference, if they do, your steering will feel nochy.
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    Why are you posting here? Just put the thing back together w/ a bunch of grease and see how it feels. If it's rough when properly adjusted you need new bearings. No need to waste time on a forum to figure that out.

    That outer race that's still in the frame looks completely worn out to me. Just sayin'.
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    I think he is posting in the right forum, now we ask why.
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    I should have just asked why he's wasting time asking whether his bearings are worn or not...not why he's posting here in particular. If he tries it and it feels like crap then come back and ask about fixing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    I should have just asked why he's wasting time asking whether his bearings are worn or not...not why he's posting here in particular. If he tries it and it feels like crap then come back and ask about fixing it.
    Thanks.. I could get out the worn out caged bearing part as well.. and I need to replace both the bearings, which are same and The mark on the bearing is "No.23CCX45" . I am not able to match with any currently available online.. How to select the right bearing ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlight View Post
    Thanks.. I could get out the worn out caged bearing part as well.. and I need to replace both the bearings, which are same and The mark on the bearing is "No.23CCX45" . I am not able to match with any currently available online.. How to select the right bearing ?
    Do you have a way of measuring the bearing? Outside diameter, inside diameter and thickness. If you can get those dimensions w/ a caliper you'll be able to find bearing easily. Sounds like they are 45* on both sides?
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    I did with regular scales as accurate as possible..
    OD 1-5/8 inch
    ID 1-3/16 inch
    Thickness 2/8 inch its 45 on outside, not able to confirm inside slope..

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    There is a difference between stuck and rough.

    If rough, then new bearings, greese, and/or headset.

    If stuck, then looks like SOL in this case. To me the headtube looks dented. There is obviously paint chipped off and looks out of round where the chip is. If there is a dent and that is causing the steering to get stuck, them no headset adjustment, replacement, maintenance will fix the problem.

    I say, take it to a shop and have them fix it - or tell you bike frame is done.

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    You are soo right here.. Got new bearings but the bottom one doesn't go in.. My self attempt ends here and will go to shop.. Unless any other reliving idea..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlight View Post
    You are soo right here.. Got new bearings but the bottom one doesn't go in.. My self attempt ends here and will go to shop.. Unless any other reliving idea..
    Unless you've done something since taking the photos the outer race of the lower bearing is still in your headtube, so no...the new bearing won't go in. You have to remove that outer race (since the bearing came apart) and then the new bearing should fit fine.

    This might not be the easiest thing you've ever done...so you could still end up going to the shop. Try using a small screwdrive to pry or knock out the remaining race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    Unless you've done something since taking the photos the outer race of the lower bearing is still in your headtube, so no...the new bearing won't go in. You have to remove that outer race
    I did remove the outer race and de greased.. But as the circumference is deformed, I am not left with any idea.. Hope the Shop will have good ideas.. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlight View Post
    I did remove the outer race and de greased.. But as the circumference is deformed, I am not left with any idea.. Hope the Shop will have good ideas.. Thanks
    New frame. I can't imagine any shop having what would be required to 'fix' that headtube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    New frame. I can't imagine any shop having what would be required to 'fix' that headtube.
    Ohh that's sending shivers.. I just bought it second hand from someone... Isn't there a way to fit a smaller size bearing or do some improvisation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlight View Post
    Ohh that's sending shivers.. I just bought it second hand from someone... Isn't there a way to fit a smaller size bearing or do some improvisation?
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    Finally, the Local Shop could fix that and new bearings are in and the issue of Steering getting stuck... yeh, it helped to be optimistic...And Thank you all experts for valuable insight..Learned a lot..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlight View Post
    Finally, the Local Shop could fix that and new bearings are in and the issue of Steering getting stuck... yeh, it helped to be optimistic...And Thank you all experts for valuable insight..Learned a lot..
    How did they fix it? From looking at the picture you shared it looked out of round. Personally, I would have concerns over my safety riding it.

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    Yes.. It did.. But he put lots of grease and pushed in with a mighty push. I believe the deformation might not be too severe..

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    Good for you, it honestly looks more like some deformity from a light peening of the lower head tube, probably from heavy bearing wear allowing those surfaces to "bump" together, rather than the bearing riding smoothly within the race..

    That your tech was able to "press it in" with a heavy application of grease is a very good sign, enjoy your new bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcannondale View Post
    Good for you, it honestly looks more like some deformity from a light peening of the lower head tube, probably from heavy bearing wear allowing those surfaces to "bump" together, rather than the bearing riding smoothly within the race..

    That your tech was able to "press it in" with a heavy application of grease is a very good sign, enjoy your new bike!
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    Ya, it rides well, no freezing of steering..

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