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    Quote Originally Posted by bvber View Post
    A troll with empty stomach. He was well fed for last 24 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mfdemicco View Post
    Are you the same dude in another thread that thanked the Lord every day for disc brakes?
    You should retreat to your safe space and get out your coloring books and play dough. BTW , Specialized and Cannondale are not crap bikes, BB30 BB are just fine and disc brakes are much better than rim.

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    Well,

    After eating way too much popcorn these past few days, I am now firmly convinced:


    Only thru-axles, not quick releases, make cyclists more horny

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaggrin View Post
    You should retreat to your safe space and get out your coloring books and play dough. BTW , Specialized and Cannondale are not crap bikes, BB30 BB are just fine and disc brakes are much better than rim.
    Sure, if that's all ya got.

    But if you rode what came before, you'd see these technological innovations from a different perspective. .

    There are tradeoffs satisfying the gods of lightweight manufacturers would rather you not think about. That includes BB30 BBs and these paper thin discs on road bike disc brakes. They want you to get a new bike every 5 years, you know, to "play it safe."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrico View Post
    Sure, if that's all ya got.

    But if you rode what came before, you'd see these technological innovations from a different perspective. .

    There are tradeoffs satisfying the gods of lightweight manufacturers would rather you not think about. That includes BB30 BBs and these paper thin discs on road bike disc brakes. They want you to get a new bike every 5 years, you know, to "play it safe."
    Zzzzzzzzzzzz

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    Steel has come a long way. Frames are significantly lighter than they were in the past. However, with the right aluminum and/or carbon bits, you can build a steel framed bike that rivals most aluminum and carbon bikes in terms of weight. Please recognize that I said most, not all. At my LBS, one of the mechanics rides a 54 centimeter Fairdale Goodship the he built up back in 2016. It has a full Dura Ace 9000 gruppo, some handbuilt sub 1400 gram wheels and weighs 16.1 lbs. If he swapped out his cockpit and saddle, I'm sure he can get it a bit lighter.

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    You're right. My mistake. I believe that over 90% of cycling is marketing BS. Most of the improvements won't benefit most riders. Thank you for reminding me.

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