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    Unhappy Long term review

    Hey folks - I've been wanting to post this for some time now but was hesitant. I think now is the best time.

    I have owned a Look 795 aerolight as my primary race/training bike for just over 1yr now. It has seen everything from 2x weekend Agrd crits, road races, weekly training rides, onward to recurring 6hr Z2 rides. You could easily say without hesitation, I have put it through the wringer. So I digress, and here's the bottom line.

    The bottom line after 1yr and thousands wasted in repairs:

    Look's 2014-2016 aerolight is poorly designed proprietary GARBAGE and DO NOT BUY this bike.

    Essentially Look has asked customers to pay to Beta test their technology and has since fixed some of the problems with their new RS2 version for 2017.

    Here's a specific list of just some the problems and parts we've replaced due to malfunction and just plain poor design, keeping in mind that look parts are NOT the easiest to get a hold.

    - Broken Epost

    - Cracked and stripped Epost seat rail wedge (torqued to spec)

    - Constant broken cables due to the cable inlet positioning on the frame
    when turning handlebars

    - TONS of brake rub in the rear (we've tightened spokes changed wheels etc etc)

    - Headset lock down bolt is frozen (it is also proprietary and uses a special tool)

    - Front aero brake bolts are now frozen and unremovable without machining them (we've never even touched these)

    - rear brakes are constantly squishy due to cable compression issues from routing (we've attempted 3 cable solutions to solve this)

    - Stem is very flexi

    - Stem has known issues with handlebar bracket stripping, extremely difficult to align bolts when installing, and even stripping due to poor design - replaced

    - Handlebar routing is behind the bar resulting in tighter apexes in cable to frame and causing sticky and ultimately broken cable housings

    Keep in mind for 2017 LOOK's RS2 model has replaced or updated the: faulty Epost, poorly designed handlebar, malfunctioning stem bracket/ hardware, updated the cable routing into the frame, added the bottom bracket access section. THIS WAS NOT BY CHANCE..

    * we're not amateurs here and we adhered strictly to all of Look's assembly guidelines: use of carbon assembly paste, precision spec'd torque wrenches, locktite, Look T1 grease, etc etc so on..

    Feel free to ask me/us any questions you'd like.
    Last edited by Benkill419; 10-05-2017 at 08:43 PM.

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    I forgot to mention that I've owned 2 695s previously to this and have always had a love for Look bikes in part to my french heritage and the quality in their 695 series.

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    Sorry about your experience. That sucks.

    I didn't know if was garbage but "proprietary" was enough to scare me off Look. Stuff happens even with the best of designs and quality.

    This is what usually happens when someone tries to reinvent something as simple and proven as a basic bicycle.

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    Not surprised at all.

    The brakes are trash, everyone's failed that's tried doing it.

    Proprietary = avoid at all costs if you have any intelligence.
    use a torque wrench

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    Funny story that relates to this a bit:

    Years ago a guy that I raced on the track with had a bad week. He broke the seat binder on his Look track frame AND blew up the engine in his Audi RS4. It took Look more time to get him a simple seat binder than it did for Audi to ship all the parts from Germany that were needed for the rebuild, rebuild the engine and get my friend's car back on the road. German (auto manufacturer)efficiency or French (bicycle manufacturer)incompetence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMsRepBike View Post
    Not surprised at all.

    The brakes are trash, everyone's failed that's tried doing it.

    Proprietary = avoid at all costs if you have any intelligence.
    I am guilty here in that I knew the history of "aerobrake" fails but still decided to pull the trigger on t his purchase. I had been training specifically for break-aways on courses that were lacking climbs and was having some noteable successes with a non aero bike. In hopes to build on these successes, I of course proceeded to go after every detail I could to improve & optimize... That said, the trade offs were clearly not worth the pains and price of this. I have since gone back to a non aero bike where I am confident in my equipment over 4watts I never needed anyways ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benkill419 View Post
    I am guilty here in that I knew the history of "aerobrake" fails...I am confident in my equipment over 4watts I never needed anyways ;)
    Well written and honest, as is your original post.

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    Boy, they have come a long way from those beautiful lugged 495, 595 models. I'm sorry you've had all those problems and in addition to that, that is one of the most aesthetically displeasing road bikes I've ever seen.
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    If you want French buy a Time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benkill419 View Post
    Hey folks - I've been wanting to post this for some time now but was hesitant. I think now is the best time.

    I have owned a Look 795 aerolight as my primary race/training bike for just over 1yr now. It has seen everything from 2x weekend Agrd crits, road races, weekly training rides, onward to recurring 6hr Z2 rides. You could easily say without hesitation, I have put it through the wringer. So I digress, and here's the bottom line.

    The bottom line after 1yr and thousands wasted in repairs:

    Look's 2014-2016 aerolight is poorly designed proprietary GARBAGE and DO NOT BUY this bike.

    Essentially Look has asked customers to pay to Beta test their technology and has since fixed some of the problems with their new RS2 version for 2017.

    Here's a specific list of just some the problems and parts we've replaced due to malfunction and just plain poor design, keeping in mind that look parts are NOT the easiest to get a hold.

    - Broken Epost

    - Cracked and stripped Epost seat rail wedge (torqued to spec)

    - Constant broken cables due to the cable inlet positioning on the frame
    when turning handlebars

    - TONS of brake rub in the rear (we've tightened spokes changed wheels etc etc)

    - Headset lock down bolt is frozen (it is also proprietary and uses a special tool)

    - Front aero brake bolts are now frozen and unremovable without machining them (we've never even touched these)

    - rear brakes are constantly squishy due to cable compression issues from routing (we've attempted 3 cable solutions to solve this)

    - Stem is very flexi

    - Stem has known issues with handlebar bracket stripping, extremely difficult to align bolts when installing, and even stripping due to poor design - replaced

    - Handlebar routing is behind the bar resulting in tighter apexes in cable to frame and causing sticky and ultimately broken cable housings

    Keep in mind for 2017 LOOK's RS2 model has replaced or updated the: faulty Epost, poorly designed handlebar, malfunctioning stem bracket/ hardware, updated the cable routing into the frame, added the bottom bracket access section. THIS WAS NOT BY CHANCE..

    * we're not amateurs here and we adhered strictly to all of Look's assembly guidelines: use of carbon assembly paste, precision spec'd torque wrenches, locktite, Look T1 grease, etc etc so on..

    Feel free to ask me/us any questions you'd like.

    Here's my strava if you would like to see what my training and abilities looks like:
    https://www.strava.com/athletes/3921150

    Cheers!
    -b

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    Man.. I regret not buying a TIME often..

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    ^^fact!...

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    Despite the problems, that's a gorgeous bike.

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    Look 795 Aerolight 30th Anniversary on Hold.

    I have been looking into purchasing a LOOK 795 Aerolight 30th Anniversary but after reading your post i have put it on hold.

    Would you know if that bike is 2014-2016 you referred to or the revised 2017 with the numerous updates to the cable routing and upgrades.

    I presently ride a 2014/15 695 Aerolight RAM with SRAM eTAP, FSE Wheelset and it has proven awesome in 3500km.

    Always loved the frame geometry of the 795 and an opportunity came up.

    Please let me know.



    Quote Originally Posted by Benkill419 View Post
    Hey folks - I've been wanting to post this for some time now but was hesitant. I think now is the best time.

    I have owned a Look 795 aerolight as my primary race/training bike for just over 1yr now. It has seen everything from 2x weekend Agrd crits, road races, weekly training rides, onward to recurring 6hr Z2 rides. You could easily say without hesitation, I have put it through the wringer. So I digress, and here's the bottom line.

    The bottom line after 1yr and thousands wasted in repairs:

    Look's 2014-2016 aerolight is poorly designed proprietary GARBAGE and DO NOT BUY this bike.

    Essentially Look has asked customers to pay to Beta test their technology and has since fixed some of the problems with their new RS2 version for 2017.

    Here's a specific list of just some the problems and parts we've replaced due to malfunction and just plain poor design, keeping in mind that look parts are NOT the easiest to get a hold.

    - Broken Epost

    - Cracked and stripped Epost seat rail wedge (torqued to spec)

    - Constant broken cables due to the cable inlet positioning on the frame
    when turning handlebars

    - TONS of brake rub in the rear (we've tightened spokes changed wheels etc etc)

    - Headset lock down bolt is frozen (it is also proprietary and uses a special tool)

    - Front aero brake bolts are now frozen and unremovable without machining them (we've never even touched these)

    - rear brakes are constantly squishy due to cable compression issues from routing (we've attempted 3 cable solutions to solve this)

    - Stem is very flexi

    - Stem has known issues with handlebar bracket stripping, extremely difficult to align bolts when installing, and even stripping due to poor design - replaced

    - Handlebar routing is behind the bar resulting in tighter apexes in cable to frame and causing sticky and ultimately broken cable housings

    Keep in mind for 2017 LOOK's RS2 model has replaced or updated the: faulty Epost, poorly designed handlebar, malfunctioning stem bracket/ hardware, updated the cable routing into the frame, added the bottom bracket access section. THIS WAS NOT BY CHANCE..

    * we're not amateurs here and we adhered strictly to all of Look's assembly guidelines: use of carbon assembly paste, precision spec'd torque wrenches, locktite, Look T1 grease, etc etc so on..

    Feel free to ask me/us any questions you'd like.

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    It's the 2014-2016 edition I was referring to. As per the pro teams choice and what i've experienced , I would steer clear away from any aero brake integration if you buy the 2017. the look rs2 with std braking is a solid move IMO. After my experiences with LOOK over the past few years, I would not hand them another dollar of my money TBH.. Ask yourself, do you really need 4watts? I would bet most could get that 50watts out of their body position with a bit of flexibility work ;)

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    Thanks man, greatly appreciated. If truth be told, it wasn't the watts that drove me, it was the "look" and incredible paint and loved the geometry. I am far from pro, but absolutely not looking for hassle, maintenance or rubbing brakes. Been there, done that and appreciate your advice.

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    Same here! I loved the idea of something different and aesthetically awesome amongst the field! The hassles that applied far outweighed the fashion + emotion for me in the end.

    Fact is after $5k plus another $2k in repairs /shop time, I sold my 795 aerolight frame for the highest bidding of $1700 a few weeks ago and have gone back to plane-jane-reliable; Belgium Ridley Helium Sl.. So frustrated in that I was not smart enough to know I was essentially paying to early beta a known poorly designed hastily tested product.
    #rantover

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    I get it but what about the Tour de France guys on the Look 795 Aerolights?

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    Show me one that hasn't been for advert purposes, I would love to see it -- I have read the mechanics veto'd them due to wheel swap drama plus known issues with rub that's inherent of lower chainstay brakes, and moved err'one onto the "Light" editions with std brakes.

    In my own findings and viewings of the tours, I have only seen the "light" versions. In addition to that, I am seeing most team riders have moved over to the new climbing bike. \_(ツ)_/

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    Just had a "really good look" at the Fortuneo Team LOOK 795 bikes and you are right in that they dont have the integrated front brakes. Cant believe i missed that one.
    In any case so far so good with my 695 Aerolight, no issues. The original carbon wheels it came with rubbed and it was due to their flex. I changed them for the new FSE and its been awesome, so far, so good. Thanks very much for setting me straight and saving me some cash. Greatly appreciate it. I will hang a photo instead.

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