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    Need help colnago superissimo no serial number

    Here is my colnago superissimo i recently bought on ebay. I thought i was getting a good deal but began to worry when there was no serial number. Then found out online the early colnagos don't have a number stamped on them. Would like to find out the year might be 79 possibly according to what I've read. Many thanks, Ciarán
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    Definitely not 70s - late 80s would be my guess (internal cable routing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jland View Post
    Definitely not 70s - late 80s would be my guess (internal cable routing).
    Internal cable routing goes way back to the 50's. Non-aero brakes would date it to before 1980. Late 70's, if it's not counterfeit.

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    On another thread here dealing with an '80's Miele, I looked up the Campy Victory group that was on it.

    The group on OP Colnago is '85 or '86. Victory only appeared in '85, and later went to Syncro shifters which those are not.

    I know next to nothing about Colnagos except that looks genuine to me. New paint job though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Time Toulouse View Post
    Internal cable routing goes way back to the 50's. Non-aero brakes would date it to before 1980. Late 70's, if it's not counterfeit.
    New guy would be wrong there. Decade off? I'm finding plenty of pictures of old style cabling from the mid to late '80's including Victory bikes.
    We just don’t realize the most significant moments of our lives when they’re happening
    Back then I thought “well there'll be other days”
    I didn’t realize that was the only day
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    So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
    and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
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    The non-aero brakes tell you the brakes are probably from before the mid to late 80's but tells you nothing about the frame. Under the bottom bracket RD cable suggests post -81 ish. Braze on FD also was not commonly found before this time frame.

    If you post it in the bike forums classic and vintage section you'll get a lot of good info. Seat stay caps and bottom bracket cutouts also provide a lot of info, but I don't know specifics on these IRT Colnagos.

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    Since the non-aero brake levers have come up a couple of times, I researched it a little more.

    Seems like early mentions of aero levers in the pro ranks are in the 1983 range, but Campagnolo was a late adopter of dual-routing, and as far as I can tell it was introduced with 1987 Record and Chorus.

    So I'm sticking with 1985-6 for the Victory group here.
    We just don’t realize the most significant moments of our lives when they’re happening
    Back then I thought “well there'll be other days”
    I didn’t realize that was the only day
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9yrupye7B0

    There's sometimes a buggy.
    How many drivers does a buggy have?
    One.
    So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
    and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM

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    Hey Julio,

    I think you right on the dating on the group. Regarding the aero levers, I have a first generation C Record group with a 1985 date code. The levers have the little fluted plate that slots into the lever that allows aero or non aero routing. That little plate tends to get lost. Also why you have the removable plug at the top of the rubber hood from that era.

    Just for giggles I googled pics of the 1985 Tour and Hinault et al at the front of the race all have "spouting" non-aero cables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc View Post
    Hey Julio,

    I think you right on the dating on the group. Regarding the aero levers, I have a first generation C Record group with a 1985 date code. The levers have the little fluted plate that slots into the lever that allows aero or non aero routing. That little plate tends to get lost. Also why you have the removable plug at the top of the rubber hood from that era.

    Just for giggles I googled pics of the 1985 Tour and Hinault et al at the front of the race all have "spouting" non-aero cables.
    My sources are the old catalogs that are in Campy's own style of English. Particularly bad at the time. It's improved since then but even today I fail to understand why they don't hire me (or someone else as well educated), to proofread their tech stuff.

    Obviously you are correct on C Record if you have them. The 1985 catalog on Record uses the phrase: "brakes set preset for the passage of the outer, lateral and inner cables". Which must mean they could be configured either way.

    Not so with Victory which has: "levers having a carved cable-ruck for quick cable replacement". Whatever that means?
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    We just don’t realize the most significant moments of our lives when they’re happening
    Back then I thought “well there'll be other days”
    I didn’t realize that was the only day
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9yrupye7B0

    There's sometimes a buggy.
    How many drivers does a buggy have?
    One.
    So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
    and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM

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    If it was a fake, they could have stamped a "fake" serial number on it, like they do with "fake" Gibson guitars, made in China.....The paint looks too good to be original.

    Looks like the previous owner threw some Shimano brake blocks on the front caliper, but you should be able to replace them.
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    The logo on the RD was stamped from '85 to '87.

    In '88 it was screened on, and has obviously been removed.

    Making me now think that this group could be as late as '88 when the old friction shifters were still an option.
    We just don’t realize the most significant moments of our lives when they’re happening
    Back then I thought “well there'll be other days”
    I didn’t realize that was the only day
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9yrupye7B0

    There's sometimes a buggy.
    How many drivers does a buggy have?
    One.
    So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
    and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM

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    whatever year the non-aeros are from, the cables are way too long. they'll look better routed behind the bars.

    get some rustines hoods for 'em too.

    sweet bike. needs a few bits, like a vintage super record rd. wait 'til winter and pick up one on ebay for $60ish.

    a generic conical locknut for the one missing from the rear caliper can be found at online hardware shops.
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    https://saarf.london/category/colnago-serial-number/

    https://saarf.london/2013/02/19/how-...-fake-colnago/

    I know that I have a couple of De Rosa's, early and mid 80's, that I bought new and they have no serial#'s. Both were bought as frame sets and were legit.

    I remember hearing that assembled and imported as "bicycles" they were issued serials but no numbers if imported as frame sets. Don't know if there is any truth in that but just thought that I'd pass it on. Also don't know if that would apply to Colnago's, true or not.


    I went back and reread your post and saw that you were aware of the serial#, or lack of. The other link may be of interest to you tho.
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