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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnystrom View Post
    Perhaps some are or were, but my Ti hardtail MTB has a Kinesis sticker on it and IIRC, my aluminum fat bike frame does, too. Perhaps their road frames are made elsewhere, or if you've heard this recently, perhaps they've changed suppliers. My bikes are both a couple of years old.

    BTW, you're forgetting one very important option for finding the bike you want, the used market. "Forever frames" are often available used in great condition and as you pointed out, the surface finish can be quickly and easily restored to make it look like new.

    One more quick point, a really light Ti frame is likely to have some flex to it, so don't automatically reject those models when searching.
    A really light titanium frame is likely to have some flex if it's not built to be stiff, or if the rider is too heavy.

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    awesome,,, thanks everyone for the reading on the Titanium's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tajue17 View Post
    awesome,,, thanks everyone for the reading on the Titanium's.
    So did you get one? What did you get?


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    ti 1974;

    solid to this day,teledyne Titan.whats the opinion on Titanium frames these days.-p5pb12554565.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter P. View Post
    The material is irrelevant i.e.; "carbon is the way to "guy" (go) now".

    The bike store gentleman probably doesn't have any titanium bikes on the floor which is a big reason why he's advocating what he does have, carbon.
    The weight differences are meaningless once you add the rider to the equation.

    Stiffness is over rated. Bikes have been plenty stiff enough for decades; you aren't going to get dropped on the next group ride because your frame wasn't stiff enough.

    Get a titanium frame if you like the idea of naked ti frames being low maintenance, or you like the look; whatever. Litespeed has a stellar reputation, by the way. You can't go wrong with them.
    I have seen some very bad Litespeed comments. Has management at Litespeed changed for the better, and offer customer service and stand behind their product now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikerva1 View Post
    I have seen some very bad Litespeed comments. Has management at Litespeed changed for the better, and offer customer service and stand behind their product now?
    From what I understand, origianl owner (lynsky ithink) sold litespeed to american bike group, who also at the/over time owned quinaroo, merlin and tomac and they were doing waaay too much stuff (building mars rovers etc) and things went to poo pretty quick, but now they've unloaded merlin and tomac and seem to be doing a much better job just concentrating on litespeed and quinaroo and not much else. So don't quote me, could be wrong but they seem to have improved a lot over the last say 5 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git View Post
    From what I understand, origianl owner (lynsky ithink) sold litespeed to american bike group, who also at the/over time owned quinaroo, merlin and tomac and they were doing waaay too much stuff (building mars rovers etc) and things went to poo pretty quick, but now they've unloaded merlin and tomac and seem to be doing a much better job just concentrating on litespeed and quinaroo and not much else. So don't quote me, could be wrong but they seem to have improved a lot over the last say 5 years.
    Lynskey sold LS to the American Bicycle Group and signed a do not compete agreement, which forbade him from getting into the bicycle business for a number of years. That agreement lapsed and he got back in. I would suspect that the people working at LS probably stayed on and still make a quality product. As far as standing behind what they make, I've read of some complaints. Of course you read complaints about Trek, Specialized, etc.

    There's at least a half dozen titanium bike manufacturers I'd chose over Litespeed, but if you find a good deal on one, or there's a dealer in your town that you like and sells LS, go for it.

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    Don't know if this helps or not, but I've owned a Habanero Ti racing bike for some 11 years now....and I cannot tell the difference between it and a bespoke Seven that is/was supposed to be the cream de la creme of Ti. And the Haby is/was 1/5 the price of the Seven. Imho, you find someone that makes a quality and/or who has a quality Ti bike made, and stands behind their stuff, you go for it. Try to take reviews you read on the Web with a grain of salt.....very few who love their bike get on the Web and gush about it. But those who have problems with any type of bike? The Internet becomes their vocal hunting and cursing ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikerva1 View Post
    I have seen some very bad Litespeed comments. Has management at Litespeed changed for the better, and offer customer service and stand behind their product now?
    Litespeed made some very light Ti frames for a few years (even with a stipulated weight limit IIRC)....which, surprise surprise, suffered bad longevity. Hence the ranting on the internet.


    I think by now they learned their lesson.


    Only thing about LS...they used friggin pressfit BBs. Yuck.
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