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    Quote Originally Posted by Local Hero View Post
    I use a PM now but had my best racing season without one. Or an HR monitor. After years of competitive running I am pretty in tune with my body and just rode by feel.

    Then again, I was riding about 35% more that year.
    I know a former world tour rider, multiple national champion etc., who just "winged" it and never had a structured training program. No one is saying it's impossible to be successful without a power meter, but people who are successful without one might still benefit (and have been even better). Greg Lemond didn't have one, and now thinks he was chronically over-training, which shortened his career. That's the sort of mistake a careful power-based approach could also help avoid.

    RE iberich, who for whatever reason thinks controlled studies are revealing in this area (hint, they aren't as the gap between the lab and the real world in cycling is still enormous), the only source that really matters is the fact that virtually every serious coach and serious racer has adopted a power-based approach because they see its practical value. I'm guessing you spend more time googling research papers than training/racing/coaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spade2you View Post
    I'll have to play with the data if I have time. I'm having really good power this year. I still have the usual struggles of being sick on race day or being stuck working at the hospital. For whatever reasons, my power is up and I'm generally a little faster than usual.
    Since I got my PM, I appeared to have bad days on my targeted race days or organized rides. I felt like I was dying half the time and did not want to even look at my numbers. Yet, there they were........ PR after PR. At times, I think it was a waste of money. Then, I get some big climb PR or my buddy that normally drops me says, "oh, you are right here."
    It's a fire road.............
    I'm on a road bike..........

    They have enough in common to blast down it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziscwg View Post
    Since I got my PM, I appeared to have bad days on my targeted race days or organized rides. I felt like I was dying half the time and did not want to even look at my numbers. Yet, there they were........ PR after PR. At times, I think it was a waste of money. Then, I get some big climb PR or my buddy that normally drops me says, "oh, you are right here."
    I think we've all peaked early (that's what SHE said!) or had really bad days on race day.

    I've been able to have some nice peaks during my TTs so far. (knocks on wood) I tend to get a cold, which turns into a long sinus infection, which often turns into bronchitis.

    On my way to the last TT, I kept setting a best 20 minute power and ended up doing my best power on race day for medium length TT.

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    Any good reads for learning how to train with a power meter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by antihero77 View Post
    Any good reads for learning how to train with a power meter?
    Training and Racing with a Power Meter by Hunter Allen and Andrew Coggan is the one I see recommended time and time again. I read it and it really helped me understand the nuances of a power meter and where I needed to spend my time....

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    Quote Originally Posted by antihero77 View Post
    Any good reads for learning how to train with a power meter?
    Quote Originally Posted by 2Slo4U View Post
    Training and Racing with a Power Meter by Hunter Allen and Andrew Coggan is the one I see recommended time and time again. I read it and it really helped me understand the nuances of a power meter and where I needed to spend my time....
    This one.
    It's a fire road.............
    I'm on a road bike..........

    They have enough in common to blast down it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevesbike View Post
    Greg Lemond didn't have one,
    Lemond was one of the first pros to use a power meter.

    Here he is using an SRM:

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    and this one showing the crankset as well during 1993 Giro:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_Simmons/RST View Post
    Lemond was one of the first pros to use a power meter.

    Here he is using an SRM:

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    and this one showing the crankset as well during 1993 Giro:

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    yes, I know he had one late in his career, but he blamed his early retirement on chronic over-training, which also hampered his comeback after his hunting accident and required surgery. Having used his first book on training during my own racing career, and trained a few times with Lemond, I'm not surprised in retrospect given both how demanding his training program was and the number of days he raced/year.

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