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    Alternative to Speedplay grease gun?

    I'm looking for a DIY alternative to the Speedplay-branded "speedy lube" system or whatever they call it.

    Never having owned a grease gun before (yet very comfortable with, uh, grease) not sure what sort of adapter/nozzle thingy I should be looking for.

    Any suggestions?

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    yeah, that's right.

    BTW, though, several places stock the speedplay grease gun these days, and I bought one... for $25 with a tube of marine grease, a little spendy but not horrible, and it is a really well-built g.gun. I didn't have one at all, and I use it for everything from pedals to headsets and whatever, it's well-built...

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    About a month ago I had to replace the bearings in my left frog pedal. I think I had about 35,000km on it. After opening it up, which is very easy, I noticed that injecting grease via the grease port is very inefficient. My guess is only about 1% of the grease applied this way actually gets used by the moving parts. Now when I grease my frogs I disassemble them and apply grease directly. When I used to use the grease port, I used a 5ml plastic syringe that I bought from a medical supplies store. They cost about a dime each.
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    Hah! I actually got one of those for from Walgreens for that very purpose:

    "Hi. I'd like to buy a syringe."
    "For insulin?"
    "No, for grease."

    So if that thing works then i might as well give it a go.
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    +1 for syringes. There are also florist versions with a long curved tip that work well too.

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    I use the same gun that I use for a my air tools, they are about 13.00 with a tube of grease.

    http://www.yardstore.com/index.cfm?a...ls&ItemID=1625

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    Any hardware store

    Quote Originally Posted by PseuZQ
    I'm looking for a DIY alternative to the Speedplay-branded "speedy lube" system or whatever they call it. Never having owned a grease gun before (yet very comfortable with, uh, grease) not sure what sort of adapter/nozzle thingy I should be looking for. Any suggestions?
    Any hardware store will sell you a "pinpoint greaser" for a few bucks, usually with good quality grease included.

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    Phil Wood OK?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry Irons
    usually with good quality grease included.
    Or do I need something else?
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    Yes & no

    Quote Originally Posted by PseuZQ
    Or do I need something else?
    Some people love PW grease, others don't think much of it.

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    OK, last Speedplay question (this week):

    Is it really necessary to have the stainless shims if you're putting the cleats on carbon-soled shoes?

    Also, just went ahead and bought an X/2 rebuild kit. I think spiders crawled out when I opened the dust cap....
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    How does this work? Do I have to tighten the bottom of the cartridge constantly?
    I'd guess it's spring loaded, like most grease guns, including the one from Speedplay. So no, you don't have to constantly tighten the bottom. That's a nice grease gun, but you'll need more of a nipple on the end to use it with Speedplay pedals. One may be included with it.

    Also, don't pay bike prices for the grease. You can find the Sta-Lube Multi-purpose Marine Grease cartridges (part # SL3184) for $5-7 for a 3-pack.

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    speedplay grease syringe

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_John
    I'd guess it's spring loaded, like most grease guns, including the one from Speedplay. So no, you don't have to constantly tighten the bottom. That's a nice grease gun, but you'll need more of a nipple on the end to use it with Speedplay pedals. One may be included with it.

    Also, don't pay bike prices for the grease. You can find the Sta-Lube Multi-purpose Marine Grease cartridges (part # SL3184) for $5-7 for a 3-pack.
    would a syringe be even better? what type of syringe needle?

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    Hypo madness?

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    would a syringe be even better? what type of syringe needle?
    When you say syringe, do you mean a medical syringe? You would need a huge needle in order to have low enough pressure drop to push the grease through. You'd also have trouble sealing the needle against the pedal body to make sure the grease was pushed through and didn't just come back out. Just go to your local hardware store and buy a cheap pin-point grease gun or equivalent. You're making this way to hard.

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    grease syringe

    [quote=Kerry Irons]When you say syringe, injecting grease via the grease port is very inefficient. My guess is only about 1% of the grease applied this way actually gets used by the moving parts. Now when I grease my frogs I disassemble them and apply grease directly. When I used to use the grease port, I used a 5ml plastic syringe that I bought from a medical supplies store. They cost about a dime each."
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    Whenever possible, I like to disassemble things to grease them. Why? Coupla reasons. 1. I can see what's been going on in there, and also clean thoroughly. 2. I'm old fashioned.
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    Disassemble is Best

    Surprises me that this thread is still active. But anyway, about a week ago I had to regrease my frogs again. As mentioned in my previous post I disassembled the Frog pedals first. Something new that I learned this time around was that the pedal interior was still full of grease only the grease had migrated to the hollowed out cavities of the pedal. Instead of applying new grease I just scooped out the grease from the pedal cavities and reused it on the bearing assembly after which I reassembled the pedal and went riding. I used to think that grease "wore out" and needed replacing, now I reason that the grease that was lubricating the bearings actually gets pushed out and migrates mostly to the pedal cavity area and some out the pedal through the rubber gasket and onto the pedal axle.

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    That's why I'd rather take stuff apart.
    Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them you'll be a mile away & you'll have their shoes.

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    Best Solution Yet

    Hey Guys,
    Sorry to resurrect this thread but the absolute best solution to this is a chainsaw grease gun. Less than ten bucks at any big box home improvement store. Works great with my Frogs.

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    Thumbs up Maybe this is not the way to do it after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    Surprises me that this thread is still active. But anyway, about a week ago I had to regrease my frogs again. As mentioned in my previous post I disassembled the Frog pedals first. Something new that I learned this time around was that the pedal interior was still full of grease only the grease had migrated to the hollowed out cavities of the pedal. Instead of applying new grease I just scooped out the grease from the pedal cavities and reused it on the bearing assembly after which I reassembled the pedal and went riding. I used to think that grease "wore out" and needed replacing, now I reason that the grease that was lubricating the bearings actually gets pushed out and migrates mostly to the pedal cavity area and some out the pedal through the rubber gasket and onto the pedal axle.
    I would think by not using the grease port, and just greasing the bearings, that the grease in the bearings would quickly migrate to the empty pedal cavities. No arguements about taking apart to check things out and cleaning, but I think using the grease port to fill the entire volume with grease will give the grease within the bearings no place to go and will stay in place longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillman5 View Post
    I would think by not using the grease port, and just greasing the bearings, that the grease in the bearings would quickly migrate to the empty pedal cavities. No arguements about taking apart to check things out and cleaning, but I think using the grease port to fill the entire volume with grease will give the grease within the bearings no place to go and will stay in place longer.
    Seeing how Ken last replied to this thread damn near 9 years ago I'd think the problem was resolved. Great first post though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    Seeing how Ken last replied to this thread damn near 9 years ago I'd think the problem was resolved. Great first post though...
    cxwrench: I guess these notes on speedplay pedals are still up here as this info is still relevant, and the thread has not been locked (some sites archive threads and close them to further comments). I've been seriously cycling since mid 70's but not neccessarily up on all the latest technology since I try to get the stuff I have to last a few years or until something that gives me significantly better tech that is worth the $ comes along. Someone in my club (nationally competitive) offered a new set of speedplay pedals at 25% off and since my original Time pedals are just about worn out (now on a 3rd bike) I bought them. So I did some research on maintenance and repair for speedplay pedals and found this thread. Since no one in all these years seemed to counter/'resolve' this post's advice on dismantling the pedal and applying grease to just the bearings to save I suppose on his yearly grease budget, I thought I comment. I thought poster was being a little penny wise and dollar foolish. People still read these posts even if they are many years old as they are still applicable. Here is to sunny and warm days ahead and few potholes

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillman5 View Post
    cxwrench: I guess these notes on speedplay pedals are still up here as this info is still relevant, and the thread has not been locked (some sites archive threads and close them to further comments). I've been seriously cycling since mid 70's but not neccessarily up on all the latest technology since I try to get the stuff I have to last a few years or until something that gives me significantly better tech that is worth the $ comes along. Someone in my club (nationally competitive) offered a new set of speedplay pedals at 25% off and since my original Time pedals are just about worn out (now on a 3rd bike) I bought them. So I did some research on maintenance and repair for speedplay pedals and found this thread. Since no one in all these years seemed to counter/'resolve' this post's advice on dismantling the pedal and applying grease to just the bearings to save I suppose on his yearly grease budget, I thought I comment. I thought poster was being a little penny wise and dollar foolish. People still read these posts even if they are many years old as they are still applicable. Here is to sunny and warm days ahead and few potholes
    Shocking to get a notification on a thread I posted to 9 years ago. Anyway, I still use Frogs on my road bike but since my last post there has been more pertinent information to share. Which is, "Do not disassemble the pedal to grease it!" The bolt head strips very easily and there's no way to get them out except maybe using an impact wrench or by drilling. The bolts are also special, as far as I can tell, made specifically for Speedplay. A few years back, I had to replace the baring in one of the pedals and the bolt head stripped. My impact wrench did not have the proper size to be useful. I had to take the pedal to a local machine shop to have it removed, but then the damaged bolt is not something your local hardware store would have. To make a long story short just remember to be very careful if you want to disassemble the pedal. Now I just take my pedals to a local bike shop and have them grease them. It's cheap and he has the proper tool for the job.

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    Hmmm, feed the trolls in rim v disc or contribute to ancient Speedplay discussion ...

    I bought a cheap plastic syringe at the drug store and trimmed the tip to fit the Speedplay grease port. It works surprisingly well.


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