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    best bottle cage?

    I had a blackburn whose top piece came off.
    I'm considering, "one-piece Al/steel bottle cage" or
    titanium or carbon fiber.

    Whats the best material? Are the "new designs," better than the old?

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    I picked these Inox cages up on Nashbar for $10 a piece, and they're my new favorites. They're stainless, so not that light (or not as light as CF or Ti), but they're plenty durable and work great.

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    I would avoid aluminum cages - they are light, but mar your bottles (which really only matters if you have light colored bottles).

    You can get various brands of carbon ones on ebay (pretty pricey for a bottle cage though), and some do not retain the bottle well. I have heard good things about Arundel carbon.

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    ummm, maybe I'm missing something here, but it's a bottle cage... if it holds the bottle and doesn't rattle everything's cool, right?

    okay maybe alum ones mar your bottles, so what?

    okay maybe carbon ones weigh less - okay, if weight is your thing then go for it

    I guess I just don't understand the question.... almost all of them hold bottles securely and let me take a drink when I want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torquecal
    ummm, maybe I'm missing something here, but it's a bottle cage... if it holds the bottle and doesn't rattle everything's cool, right?

    okay maybe alum ones mar your bottles, so what?

    okay maybe carbon ones weigh less - okay, if weight is your thing then go for it

    I guess I just don't understand the question.... almost all of them hold bottles securely and let me take a drink when I want to.
    Yeah, you are right. I just got the sense he was looking for something, uh, more elite? Perhaps I read him wrong.

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    Stainless

    I like the Blackburn/Performance stainless MTB cages - they are identical as near as I can tell. They are slightly heavier than the road model but are quite a bit stronger. Stiff welded constuction, no paint to wear, fairly cheap. Good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steel515
    I had a blackburn whose top piece came off.
    I'm considering, "one-piece Al/steel bottle cage" or
    titanium or carbon fiber.

    Whats the best material? Are the "new designs," better than the old?
    I got a couple of Arundel carbon cages for my new Trek Pilot 5.2. They look very cool, but at about $35 each they're major league pricey.

    Jim

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    The King(?) tubular Ti & Arundel CF cages are both extremely light - the former looks like a standard old school cage and the latter looks pretty modern. Both work fine...

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    The stainless steel King cages are very reliable and quite light. They have a lifetime warrentee. Steel- it's next years carbon fiber.

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    BTP & Forte

    I've been using the BTP Carbon fiber cages for over a year and half. I'm amazed that a 15 gram cage, including the mounting hardware has been so durable and holds the bottle so well. I also bought a set of thr Performance Bike Forte carbon fiber cages when they has a 2 for $29 sale and found these to be excellent cages although one of them weighs what my two BTP weighs although 30 grams for a cage is plenty light.

    Quote Originally Posted by steel515
    I had a blackburn whose top piece came off.
    I'm considering, "one-piece Al/steel bottle cage" or
    titanium or carbon fiber.

    Whats the best material? Are the "new designs," better than the old?
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    Maybe

    Quote Originally Posted by torquecal
    if it holds the bottle and doesn't rattle everything's cool, right? maybe alum ones mar your bottles, so what?
    I certainly can't claim to have tested every bottle cage extant, but I can say that over the years (including last summer, the most recent year) I have seen plenty of bottles bounce out of cages. I'm guessing that, in fact, there are a fair number of cages out there that don't hold the bottles all that well. And I know there are a bunch that rattle. Aluminum cages leave your bottles pretty much black and splotchy - it's not a look that many people are going for. Most of us have some pride in how the rig looks, and IMO the "black bottle" is not a welcome plague. Finding a reasonably lightweight cage that doesn't launch bottles, rattle along, and disfigure your bottles seems a reasonable quest.

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    Profile cages work well for me.

    They're cheap, light and hold the bottles more securely than any others I've tried. They do scrape the bottles, but my kids leave water bottles at the pool or the football field long before they look too bad for me to use. Because you have to pull the bottle straight up out of the cage, Profile cages don't work in some spots on our tandem and, I'm told, on the seat tube of small, compact frames.
    We have nothing to lube but our chains.

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    Avoid IRD cages

    I had a bad experience with the IRD carbon cages. Although very light, sacrifice was secure bottle retention and robust build quality. IRD accepted return of a cage they said 'sounded defective' and promised to replace it. Several months later they have not sent a replacement and have not responded to email. Avoid.
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    Behind the Seat Cage?

    Anybody have any experience with the behind the seat bottle cages?
    http://www.performancebike.com/shop/....cfm?SKU=18690

    I like the look of them, but wonder if carrying the weight so high would cause the bike to feel different. Also, where do you keep you spare tube and tools?
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    I use the Elites in black. Aluminum, a bit heavy, very beefy, the vinyl buttons really hold the bottle in place well. They don't scratch or color bottles either and I've had a set for almost 2 years. $10 each, it was a no brainer for me. King SS cages age great too...


    I'll second AilBaba's opinion on the IRD cages. My buddy's dad uses them and is constantly dropping bottles. With a certain amount of fluid in them, at the right speed with the right bump, the bottle on the down tube comes out. A full bottle would stay in, an empty bottle would as well, only when its half full (or half empty depending on what type of person you are). This is a guy with a 13 lb roadbike so he had to have them but realized we eventually would stop waiting for him. They were replaced.

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    Everyone has their faves, but

    ...I haven't found better. I've had one for 5 years and didn't drop a bottle yet. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, eh?

    ELITE Stainless Steel Bottle Cage
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    I have the Token 15g carbon cages. Look fragile but are pretty tough. Want elite and SUPER light try these... 5.5gr
    http://www.m2racer.com/products.php?...products&id=18

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    Nice Shwag

    Quote Originally Posted by Savedsol
    I have the Token 15g carbon cages. Look fragile but are pretty tough. Want elite and SUPER light try these... 5.5gr
    http://www.m2racer.com/products.php?...products&id=18

    Nice stuff....if you can drop $53 per cage. I bet the shipping is not much for only 5.5gr.

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    The "Best" cage is the King Tubular Ti - but YES, its $$$$

    Well known to be the best cage.

    Its a "standard" cage shape/design, but made with tubular titanium.

    As light as Carbon cages (like 20-some grams each), but holds on to bottles like none other. And virtually indestructable.


    Additionally, it wont mark up your bottles.


    HOWEVER, at $100.00 per pair, you really gotta want the best.

    Ive had my pair for 5 years. Worth it? You betcha.

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    You're right Kerry, I shouldn't have made light of the question and I apologize. I haven't seen many water bottle cages fail, and the bottles I usually see fall out were rather hastily put back in place. Personally, I don't mind marks on my water bottles but I can see where that would matter to some.

    I shouldn't have taken the question flippantly.

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    Thumbs up I'll 2nd those Elites.............

    Quote Originally Posted by AJS
    ...I haven't found better. I've had one for 5 years and didn't drop a bottle yet. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, eh?

    ELITE Stainless Steel Bottle Cage

    - They're all I've ever used & have never launched a bottle, they're light & won't totally break the bank.

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    Bottle launchers?

    Quote Originally Posted by gibson
    Anybody have any experience with the behind the seat bottle cages?
    As I said above, I've not used every cage, but every seat mounted system I've seen has effectively been a bottle launcher. They were relatively popular a decade ago, but everyone around here quit using them either because they got tired of going back for their bottles or they got tired of all the crap they took from everyone else when they had to go back for their bottles

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    I like Profile too (nm)

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    Bottle Launchers

    I was out doing a solo century and a triathlete hooked up with me and we were sharing pulls. I looked at his bike, 2 bottles in the frame (with some drink) that between the bar thing with the straw and 2 big bottles in the launcher. I asked how far he was riding with all that water, he said "80 miles". he asked me how far I was riding and I said a century.
    he said "a century with 2 medium sized bottles?" I pulled a $5 bill out of my jersey pocket and said "these weigh less and there are stores all along the route".
    Elites, just to stay on topic. I'm not concerned with marring my bottles, life is way too short.

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    Last edited by snapdragen; 09-18-2009 at 08:58 PM.
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