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    Lacing rear wheel

    This rear wheel is killing me. Took photos of it before I tore it apart and I am putting it back together exactly the same way, but the drive side spokes become too short to reach the nipples. Any advice? I swapped spoke sides and it works but the drive side was too long and the non drive was a bit short. It is a 24 spoke

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    Not to be harsh with you but it sounds like you need to go back to zero and start over.

    This must be your first build. Do you understand the instructions given on the wheelbuilding sites and books out there?

    Your spokes must not be the right length. How did you find out what length to buy?

    Again, not being critical, but something is way out of whack with your wheel.

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    Thanks for the reply. This is my first build. I know I have the right lengths because I took the wheel apart and I am using the same spokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgod288 View Post
    Thanks for the reply. This is my first build. I know I have the right lengths because I took the wheel apart and I am using the same spokes.
    What changed? Did you put on a new rim and does the new rim have the same spoke bed diameter? Did you put in a new hub? The only other guess is that you got the spoke crosses wrong on the DS.

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    Lacing rear wheel

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry Irons View Post
    What changed? Did you put on a new rim and does the new rim have the same spoke bed diameter? Did you put in a new hub? The only other guess is that you got the spoke crosses wrong on the DS.
    I was about to guess he got the lacing wrong.

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    Nothing changed in the wheel, so I am doing something wrong. Just cant figure out what. I am looking at my pictures from before a tore it down and building it back the same. Don't see what I am doing wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgod288 View Post
    Nothing changed in the wheel, so I am doing something wrong. Just cant figure out what. I am looking at my pictures from before a tore it down and building it back the same. Don't see what I am doing wrong
    well, neither can we.
    i work for some bike racers...
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    oh, those belong in another forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgod288 View Post
    Don't see what I am doing wrong
    My crystal ball isn't letting me see your pictures either. Why exactly did you take it apart? It seems you are using all the old hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgod288 View Post
    ... Took photos of it before I tore it apart ... I swapped spoke sides and it works but the drive side was too long and the non drive was a bit short ...
    Can you post the pictures?

    What do you mean by swap spoke sides?

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    I'm going to guess that the OP figured out he had mislaced something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgod288 View Post
    I swapped spoke sides and it works but the drive side was too long and the non drive was a bit short. It is a 24 spoke
    I read this as saying that he swapped spokes from one side to the other for some reason, with the entirely expected result that now one side has spokes that are too long and the other too short.
    There's sometimes a buggy.
    How many drivers does a buggy have?

    One.

    So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
    and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerjulio View Post
    I read this as saying that he swapped spokes from one side to the other for some reason, with the entirely expected result that now one side has spokes that are too long and the other too short.
    Agreed.

    One other possibility comes in if the NDS were put on first and tightened way down, it'd be tough / impossible to get the DS laced. Of course that's not how it's done, either.
    A good habit is as hard to break as a bad one..

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    I'm still trying to understand why the OP disassembled his wheel to rebuild it with the same exact parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclo-phile View Post
    I'm still trying to understand why the OP disassembled his wheel to rebuild it with the same exact parts.
    I think just so he could learn how to do it. It's a reasonable thing to do starting out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clipped_in View Post
    I think just so he could learn how to do it. It's a reasonable thing to do starting out.
    Yes, I admire his enthusiasm!

    When I was very young I used to take things apart to see how they worked...and sometimes couldn't get them back together.

    I'm afraid that I'm assuming the worst at this point. He didn't respond when I asked if he'd read anything about wheelbuilding and he keeps referring to a picture that he took of the wheel before he tore it apart.
    Unfortunately, a picture doesn't show a lot of critical information needed to build a wheel.

    I hope he realizes that a shop can rebuild it for him for hopefully not too much money.

    Edit: Or hopefully he will check Mikes' and Sheldons' websites to learn to do it right.
    Last edited by Randy99CL; 05-10-2013 at 01:26 PM.

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    Are the spoke holes offset slightly from the center of the rim? Do you have each spoke going to the wrong side? But that would make both sides too short

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