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    Mudshine safe on Carbon?

    Has anyone used Mudshine Bike Cleaner Degreaser? Will it damage Carbon frames?

    The shop guy swears by it. 😒

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    of course not, it's perfectly fine to use. does it damage the plastic bottle it's in?
    i work for some bike racers...
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    oh, those belong in another forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    of course not, it's perfectly fine to use. does it damage the plastic bottle it's in?
    Sales guy told me that it ruins the top coat on Ibis frames. That triggered my worries. Although I never owned an Ibis bike, I know their frames are carbon. Yes I know I shouldn't had bought it to begin with but I can find my favorite White Lightning Wash and Shine anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zone5 View Post
    Sales guy told me that it ruins the top coat on Ibis frames. That triggered my worries. Although I never owned an Ibis bike, I know their frames are carbon. Yes I know I shouldn't had bought it to begin with but I can find my favorite White Lightning Wash and Shine anywhere.
    Well, there you have it then. Sales guys are always spot on.

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    that Ibis topcoat is likely to be a 2 pack Linear polyurethane paint, unless they use a completely different brand / type to every other company I don't know why Ibis should be different from every other brand ????

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    Thanks! I will be returning this product later on.

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    Whats wrong with just regular car wash soap?

    Been using it for years. Never had a problem.

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    so it doesn't do anything to carbon frames, but might cause problems w/ paint. i've used Mudshine and it's not a very aggressive product. i can't imagine it hurting paint. i use SimpleGreen on all of my drivetrains and brakes. i use Dawn dish soap on the rest of the bike. none of them have ever damaged any paint.
    i work for some bike racers...
    2013 Trek Madone 5.9 w/ '12 SRAM Red
    2010 Cervelo T1 sprint bike
    Ruger 10-22TD
    Smith&Wesson M&P 15-22
    Smith&Wesson M&P 9
    oh, those belong in another forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by zone5 View Post
    Thanks! I will be returning this product later on.
    Why? There is no way it will hurt your bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    so it doesn't do anything to carbon frames, but might cause problems w/ paint. i've used Mudshine and it's not a very aggressive product. i can't imagine it hurting paint. i use SimpleGreen on all of my drivetrains and brakes. i use Dawn dish soap on the rest of the bike. none of them have ever damaged any paint.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    And if you want it real shiny spray it with Pledge furniture polish & wipe it down. I use Pledge to shine the whole bike except the rims.
    Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them you'll be a mile away & you'll have their shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tihsepa View Post
    Whats wrong with just regular car wash soap?

    Been using it for years. Never had a problem.
    +1
    I also use Pledge (or a generic equivalent) to do minor cleanings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Versatile View Post
    ^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    And if you want it real shiny spray it with Pledge furniture polish & wipe it down. I use Pledge to shine the whole bike except the rims.
    Lemon Pledge...it's been in every shop i've ever worked in. great stuff!
    i work for some bike racers...
    2013 Trek Madone 5.9 w/ '12 SRAM Red
    2010 Cervelo T1 sprint bike
    Ruger 10-22TD
    Smith&Wesson M&P 15-22
    Smith&Wesson M&P 9
    oh, those belong in another forum

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    Complete bike cleaning and lubrication kit.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Mudshine safe on Carbon?-bike-cleaning-kit.jpg  
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    ^^^^^^^And there you have it^^^^^^^^^^

    Its painted plastic. It will be fine.

    These guys act like they are trying to clean a booger off the Mona Lisa.

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    Dawn all the way.
    If it's good enuf for a duck, its good enuf for my bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tihsepa View Post
    ...Its painted plastic. It will be fine....
    Actually, it's painted (likely polyurethane) carbon fiber reinforced epoxy. Saying it's plastic is a gross simplification. Gas cans are often plastic and so are styrene drink cups. Put gasoline in a styrene cup and see what happens.

    Cured two-part polyurethane paint is resistant to most solvents whereas many other types of paints aren't.
    ... 'cuz that's how I roll.

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    Thanks for nuthin, ruined my styrene cup and now, "no coffee for me".

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