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    Ultegra 11 Chain came w Quick Link

    I just ordered 2 HG701 chains from Western Bike Works, and they came with quick links instead of pins. I can't get the thing on by hand. Do I need the Shimano tool, or can I use the Park Master link tool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiCoyote View Post
    I just ordered 2 HG701 chains from Western Bike Works, and they came with quick links instead of pins. I can't get the thing on by hand. Do I need the Shimano tool, or can I use the Park Master link tool?
    I'd heard Shimano had gone the link route.

    I use KMC missing links on Campy chains instead of the supplied pins and this dual tool- https://www.amazon.com/Elat-Park-Bic...SHYYTFIVPWUY6Q

    Can't imagine you'd need anything besides the Park tool if it's the new version that both opens and closes (before, Park sold two separate open/close sets).
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    The thing is, it looks like you need some spreading force to lock the link, and the shimano tool lets you spread by squeezing the handles. I'd buy the shimano tool, but it's twice as expensive, and nobody stocks it.

    Is the quick link a permanent change, or did I get old stock chains?

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    -Lock the rear wheel and use the cranks to snap it in place.

    -You didn't get an old chain.

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    with the chain open at the bottom and gearing in the small-small combo, mark where you are going to remove links to get to the correct length.

    remove unwanted links.

    take chain off small ring temporarily while attaching link by hand.

    put chain back onto small ring and check RD for correct clearance.

    repeat last 2 steps if necessary to get correct chain length.

    with link hand tight, rotate chain to top, lock rear wheel and push on crank. observe link clicking into engagement. check it's nice and free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerjulio View Post
    with the chain open at the bottom and gearing in the small-small combo, mark where you are going to remove links to get to the correct length.

    remove unwanted links.

    take chain off small ring temporarily while attaching link by hand.

    put chain back onto small ring and check RD for correct clearance.

    repeat last 2 steps if necessary to get correct chain length.
    Or just make it the same length of the one you took off if that was known to be correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Strongbow View Post
    Or just make it the same length of the one you took off if that was known to be correct.
    The existing chain may or may not be the "correct" length, since there can be disagreements on this topic. My method starts from basics, so that a previous mistake is not repeated.
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    No tool needed.

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    This was really helpful! Thank you so much!

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    I got one of the new Shimano quick links and holy crap was it hard to close! Ive use KMC and Sram and nothing like the Shimano. I normally hold the brake and turn pedal with my hand on bike stand to close them. Could not do it with this one. I had to put bike on the floor and stand on pedal to get it to close. I havent tried to take it off yet.

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    I shifted the chain in the small-big combo. I held the wheel with my left hand, and put pressure on the crank with my right. It did take some serious pressure though. It probably would have been easier had I used my foot.

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    I believe Shimano gave up on the replacement pins back on 9-speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Time Toulouse View Post
    I believe Shimano gave up on the replacement pins back on 9-speed.
    Why would you believe that? They've been using pins on 10 and 11 speed chains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlg View Post
    Why would you believe that? They've been using pins on 10 and 11 speed chains.
    Shoot, an HG701 chain I ordered this May came with pins instead of link

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    I always put the bike in a doorway, sat on the saddle, lock the rear brake, and press down on the pedal. The link clicks into place easily.

    Some remove options:
    1. a quicklink pliers tool.
    2. theoretically, you can squeeze the diagonal ends with pliers. I didn't have much luck with this.
    3. from a youtube video, I made this tool from an old spoke. Cut off the J bend end. Bend the spoke with two pliers. It's exact shape isn't critical. I added a red tape flag so I wouldn't throw it out accidentally.

    Squeeze with pliers at the green arrows.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TiCoyote View Post
    The thing is, it looks like you need some spreading force to lock the link, and the shimano tool lets you spread by squeezing the handles. I'd buy the shimano tool, but it's twice as expensive, and nobody stocks it.
    Very hard to imagine this is the case. As numerous people have shown you, install the link and put pedaling pressure on the chain. The link will snap into place. You may need a tool to get it back apart, but not to install it.

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    With the KMC quick link, I've never had to lock the back wheel - just roll the chain till the link is on top in any gear and give a pedal a good smack with the heel of my hand and it snaps right into place. Disassembly is easy with the Park tool made for this. I also keep a used link laying around to test fit the chain after cutting to make sure it's what I want before using a new one for final assembly since you aren't supposed to reuse the KMCs on their 11 speed version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Time Toulouse View Post
    I believe Shimano gave up on the replacement pins back on 9-speed.
    Actually it wasn't long after that that Shimano gave up on quick links. Until now. This isn't their first go-round with quick links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Strongbow View Post
    -Lock the rear wheel and use the cranks to snap it in place.
    But will need the "unlock" tool I believe. I have the KMC tools I got off ebay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notvintage View Post
    But will need the "unlock" tool I believe. I have the KMC tools I got off ebay.
    In a pinch you can just thread a shoelace around the quicklink and then cinch down to pop it back open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    Shoot, an HG701 chain I ordered this May came with pins instead of link
    I doubt you missed anything, I would expect the Shimano quick ling to be single use only.

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