from Ultegra 6700 to Campagnolo? Need opinions
I am 182cm, 65kg, likes climbing and riding on a 2009 Tarmac. My current components are Ultegra 6700 shifters, RD and brakes. Ultegra 6600SL FD and Crankset. Dura-Ace 7900 chain. Also 6700 wheelset.
6600SL parts are from 2009, wheelset and 6700 parts are from 2011 and chain is one years old.
After one of my friend bought Tarmac with Campagnolo set, i had a chance to try it for the first time, and I actually really liked how they feel. Thats why, I have a plan to switch my groupset to Campagnolo.
I am able to buy Athena or Athena Carbon instead of my group set, if I sell all my parts to someone.
But wheelset can be a problem and for the beginning I maybe will have to buy something really cheap.
What you guys are thinking about that kind of change on my bike? Is it nonsense? Is there anyone did that before?
Instead of investing a new groupset, buying new wheels or crankset will be better?
I am looking for some advices and chat about it.
It is very likely that switching out the entire drivetrain and wheelset won't be economically worthwhile. Generally, it makes more sense to just buy a new bike with the components that you want.
Your used Shimano parts aren't worth a lot on the resale market; maybe less than 20% of retail? I don't know.
If you were upgrading from Ultegra to DA, for example, you could spread the expense by buying one part at at time but going to Campy you'll have to switch almost the entire group at once.
Just find the best price you can for the Campy group and wheelset, realize that you won't get anywhere near that much for your old stuff, and compare to the price of the new model bike.
Only you can decide if what you like about your friends Campy stuff compared to what you have already is worth the money.
It wouldn't be for me because I like the shimano shifting technique and I'm not big on spending money unless I can call it a need but that has nothing to do with what you like and are willing to spend.
For The Love Of Campy
Out of curiousity I took some guesses on what pieces you may to make this happen.
A quick check of components and prices from the web site glorycycles gave me this:
2012 on sale Athena Carbon group set: $1,379
Shamal Ultra wheels: $1,399
Michelin Pro 4 Somp tire x2: $109.80
Michelin Aircomp Light tube x2: $15.98
That doesn't include any labor if work is done by a shop.
On Specialize's web site $3,000 equals an on sale Tarmac SL4 Expert Mid Compact: Specialized Bicycle Components
I couldn't find any Tarmacs that had a Campagnolo group set.
A comparable set of wheels to what you were used to would be something like a set of Campy Neutron or Zonda. For Campy wheels, look primarily for nothing lower than either of these, they're both great wheels. I currently have a set of Zondas, and may be considering a set of Neutrons in the future.
Specifically related to the Zonda: they'll have loose ball bearings like the higher up Eurus & Shamals, but having steel bearings instead of ceramic (Shamal has ceramic bearings), and using stainless steel spokes (both the Eurus and Shamal have aluminum spokes instead) help to keep the price down. And they roll very, very nicely. US pricing on them is around $650-$750 European retailers (like Ribble & Total Cycling) will have them under $450.
The last bike I built up was with Campy. I'd been using Shimano components for 20 years. It was an interesting change, but personally, I find that they both accomplish the same thing.
Burnette is a little high. You can get an Athena group from Ribble for $862 complete. Or you can buy all the parts, except for the brakes (which should work fine) for $800. For an extra $80, you can get Chorus shifters instead of Athena. You want to do this. If you throw in the brakes, you're up to around $1000.
The wheel issue sucks. I doubt Shimano makes a cassette body that converts their wheels to a Campy configuration. But maybe someone else does? Its worth checking into. If you can find a cassette body, that's a cheap fix (probably less than $100). There's lots of alternatives to Shamal wheels for $1400. I had a set built for me using White Industries hubs, Kinlin rims and Sapim Cxray spokes for around $700. They're quite nice wheels. I've also got a set of Neuvation wheels (R28 Aero) that currently sell for $300. I've ridden a set of these commuting for the last year on a different bike, and they've been fine. They come in Campy and Shimano configurations.
So there's some options. You could do it on the cheap for as low as $1100 (plus whatever it will cost you to install the parts). For $1700, you'd have all the parts swapped, upgraded shifters and wheels that are probably better than what you have now.
So, is it worth it? I've never seen a Specialized bike at a LBS equipped with Campy. So if you really love that Specialized, maybe its worth it. Or, you could pick up a used titanium frame on ebay and build it up with the Campy stuff and have two bikes. Unfortunately, the used components and wheels you have won't be worth much, but they could defray some costs. I personally like having more than one bike.
If what you like is the shifters, you can just replace the shifters to Campy and use all the other Shimano parts with the correct JTek Shiftmate, at least that's what I've been reading.
This would allow you to make a minimal investment (shifters only) without having to change wheels or derailleurs.
I kind of plan to do this with the retro-modern bike I'm futzing around with. I have a complete set of Ultegra and Dura Ace parts except shifters which I'm in the process of getting organized and building up. I run Shimano wheels on all the other bikes in the family and really would like to stick with Shimano free hubs. Since I don't have shifters (using downtube shifters for now), I plan to find some 9 or 10 speed Campy shifters just to give them a try with the Shimano derailleurs and cassettes.
Thanks for all the comments.
About Shiftmate; the first thing about Campy I want to try is 11 speed with a good money. Thats why I wanted to change so it will be the best solution for me.
I made a calculation about the money I should spend. For Athena group set, I should pay like 150-200 euros more, if I sell my groupset in Turkey. It's OK for me.
But the bigger difference is coming from the wheelset. I should pay more than 400 euros for a wheelset which is around the same weight and tubeless in campagnolo. Again, assuming that it will be really easy to sell my Ultegra Wheelset at the good price.
So what I decided with the budget I can save 600 euros.
First I am going SpeedPlay Zero Pedals.
Second will be a good, stiff, aluminum stem. I will try to find the best offer for them.
The weakest links on my bike is 6600SL crankset and FD. So I will change them and it will be the end of my budget.
What you guys think for that upgrade.
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