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    ZIPP 404 Carbon Wheels - Are They The Best Now??

    Hello group,

    Are the ZIPP 404 Carbon Wheels the best in their class this year?

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    I'm sure you can do much better for the same money.
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    they're good enough for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by robdamanii View Post
    I'm sure you can do much better for the same money.
    Define "better".

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    Define "better"

    Something without a Zipp hub for starters.

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    I did a review of them on my blog and think they might really be the "best in class" at this time. http://glorycycles.blogspot.com/2010...er-review.html Also went into a second review when Zipp tech guys wanted to explain away some of the comments I had made about the carbon specific pads - http://glorycycles.blogspot.com/2010...brake-pad.html


    No doubt you are not going to get consensus on this forum but everyone will have to agree they are really hard to beat for an all round carbon clincher.

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    Been riding them since this winter, they are very good. Only downside is the high cost, and the rear wheel can flex a bit for bigger racers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadboy View Post
    Define "better"

    Something without a Zipp hub for starters.
    Such win.

    Lighter, more durable, cheaper. Oh, and NOT a carbon clincher...sheesh.

    Not quite sure what the obsession with carbon clinchers is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robdamanii View Post
    Such win.

    Lighter, more durable, cheaper. Oh, and NOT a carbon clincher...sheesh.

    Not quite sure what the obsession with carbon clinchers is.
    exactly...i guess it's people that want to pay a ton for a wheel that looks like it's really light and cool, but in reality weighs as much as an alloy clincher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    exactly...i guess it's people that want to pay a ton for a wheel that looks like it's really light and cool, but in reality weighs as much as or in some cases more than an alloy clincher.
    FIFY.
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    Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure that won't be an issue) but at 1557 g for an aero 58mm wheels seems both climbing light and aero fast - and no glue.... what's wrong with that? For comparative purposes the Bontrager 5.0 ACC is an alloy aero wheel but weights 1802 g..... there does seem to be a point.

    Now $ 2,700 for a set of wheels.... that's more of a discretionary spending issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthebottom View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure that won't be an issue) but at 1557 g for an aero 58mm wheels seems both climbing light and aero fast - and no glue.... what's wrong with that? For comparative purposes the Bontrager 5.0 ACC is an alloy aero wheel but weights 1802 g..... there does seem to be a point.

    Now $ 2,700 for a set of wheels.... that's more of a discretionary spending issue.

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    It's the clincher part that boggles my mind. That, and the price. If you MUST have carbon that badly, just use a tubular rim. Lighter, safer, tried and true.
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    Still Enve 45 with DT Swiss 240s is a great choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robdamanii View Post
    It's the clincher part that boggles my mind. That, and the price. If you MUST have carbon that badly, just use a tubular rim. Lighter, safer, tried and true.
    One word, glue....

    Don't know, never tried to ride/mount/fix a tubular but after watching a couple videos on just mounting one I think my time is better spent elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthebottom View Post
    One word, glue....

    Don't know, never tried to ride/mount/fix a tubular but after watching a couple videos on just mounting one I think my time is better spent elsewhere.

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    Eh...gluing isn't that hard. It's just a careful process, much like any other assembly process on a bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolhand View Post
    Only downside is the high cost, and the rear wheel can flex a bit for bigger racers.
    I've seen this issue addressed by using the Zipp track 404 (28-hole) hoop. Lace it 3x to the hub of your choice..... sacrifice a bit of weight, but the danged thing is really stout.
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    I just bought pair, hopefully it performs well!

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    I paid less than half that price for my Reynolds DV46 UL Clinchers. They're maybe 200 grams lighter than the Zipps.

    Zipps look cooler though, and that actually counts for quite a bit.

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    Got a pair of assaults so didnt want to go with another set of reynolds, although they perform great!!!

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    This is a pretty open ended question.

    Everybody is going to give you their "opinions". For the recreational rider, they probably won't perform any better or worse than other wheels in that price range.

    If you like them and can afford them...buy them...end of line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubbersoul View Post
    Still Enve 45 with DT Swiss 240s is a great choice.

    The world is your oyster
    Would you mind to tell me the price of these wheel set?

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