any old school

[atpjunkie]

retrogrouchy, 'steel is real' cx types here looking for something cool in around a 57 cm TT??????

not one of mine but I found something at a good price you may be interested in. If it was one size up I'd already own it

Ritchey Mtn Cross Vintage '99 Steel Frame 20 1 inch Red | eBay

[atpjunkie]

people are dumb.It's $650 why are they making offers? jeebus if you want it, just buy it that's a deal for a quality steel frame

[pretender]

That's hot.

[foto]

Its a fair price, but no fork is a bit of a bummer.

[atpjunkie]

Its a fair price, but no fork is a bit of a bummer.

pigpen has found a few
can't find any? Have someone build ya one

[sslos]

Holy crap. That thing is beautiful!!!
If we hadn't just moved halfway across the country (and are still waiting for our house to sell,) I'd be all over that!

Los

[uncreative]

very glad that is too big for me

[foto]

Its a fair price, but no fork is a bit of a bummer.

yeah...that's not the real reason I am not buying that awesome frame, that's in my size, that I used to want when you could still get them from QBP...its just the one that makes me feel better.

[Erik_A]

put a black "All City - Nature Boy" fork on there http://www.outsideoutfitters.com/p-2...FQSunQodES0ApQ

[atpjunkie]

yeah...that's not the real reason I am not buying that awesome frame, that's in my size, that I used to want when you could still get them from QBP...its just the one that makes me feel better.

been there

[atpjunkie]

plexus stays, mmmmmmmm

[sslos]

put a black "All City - Nature Boy" fork on there http://www.outsideoutfitters.com/p-2...FQSunQodES0ApQ

1" steerer.

Los

[Burton679]

That's hot.

[foto]

yeah that frame was pretty ahead of its time, a de-tuned cross bike that could fit 45s, during a period before 29ers, but after Bianchis little Project - x experiment. A bike you could ride to the trail, and then ride on the trail. I definitely wanted one of those to cruise the New England hills, but didn't have the flow for that kind of purchase back then.

[pigpen]

Yep, have a few extra.
Have a carbon winwood in 1" too.

I also have a Ritchey steel road fork if anyone needs it.

[atpjunkie]

excuses over. somebody buy

[foto]

Sorry about being nit-picky, but those forks aren't the fork the mtn cross came with. For one thing, the fork that frame came with had a larger fork crown....Those are for the euro cross, the standard racing frame.

A surly crosscheck fork would probably be more appropriate geometry wise...

but I could also be totally wrong...

[pigpen]

foto you might be correct.
Mine are all old SwissCross forks.
Well maybe. I am running the one on the left that replaced the Windwood.
They all match my SC that came with a steel fork.

In the specs of the MC and SC (below) I received from Ritchey. They mention the axel to crown and rake but not crown width.

Should not matter much if you are using the MC to race cross (maybe if you are wanting a fat tire bike)

Mount Cross
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
top tube (in.) 21.3 21.6 22 22.3 22.7 23 23.4
seat tube (c-t, in.) 16 17 18 19 20 21 22
head tube (cm) 9.0 9.0 9.0 9.0 10.0 10.4 10.4
seat tube angle 73.5 73.5 73.5 73.5 73.5 73.5 73.5
head tube angle 71.5 71.5 71.5 72 72 72 72
BB drop (in) 1.5 1.5 1.5 1.5 1.5 1.5 1.5
BB width (mm) 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
chainstay (in) 16.8 16.8 16.8 16.9 16.9 16.9 16.9
wheelbase (in) 40.3 40.5 41 41.5 42 42.5 43.25

fork specs - 1" steer tube, 44mm rake, 396mm axle-crown

note seat post diameter varies - tig welded (Japan) frames are 27.0, fillet brazed (TR) frames are 26.8


Swiss Cross

50 52 54 56 58
top tube (in.) 52.5 53 53.5 55 56.5
seat tube (c-t, in.) 50 52 54 56 58
head tube (cm) 9.0 9.0 10.8 12.8 14.8
seat tube angle 74 74 73.5 73.5 73.5
head tube angle 71.5 71.5 72 72 72
BB drop (cm) 6.5 6.5 6.5 6.5 6.5
chainstay (cm) 42.5 42.5 42.5 42.5 42.5
wheelbase (cm) 99.5 100 101 102 103
seatpost diameter 27.0 27.0 27.0 27.0 27.0

fork specs - 1" steer tube, 44mm rake, 396mm axle-crown

[foto]

I can except that I might be totally wrong...I remember reading ad copy saying the mt cross was a fat tired bike and thinking to my self "that's what i need', but it looks like was designed as a flat bar cross racer with a longer top tube than the swiss cross.

Thanks for the education.

[Nater]

Surly Cross check forks are available in 1" threadless too.

[pigpen]

I can except that I might be totally wrong...I remember reading ad copy saying the mt cross was a fat tired bike and thinking to my self "that's what i need', but it looks like was designed as a flat bar cross racer with a longer top tube than the swiss cross.

Thanks for the education.

Was not trying to say you were wrong. I really don't know if there is a difference.
I do have much more clearance up front than the rear of my SC's. I would gander that Ritchey used the same fork but now you have me thinking. (time for some research)
The MC was not a huge seller. Ritchey was trying to gain a following with the MTBers and it never caught on. There are not many out there.
I want one to add to my collection. The one on ebay is too large or it would be mine,

Yes it was designed to be used with a flat bar with a longer TT.
The long TT should not be an issue for most as the SC has a very short TT.