I like that the roadies first move is to think someone is spamming them
Last edited by derekvh; 10-08-2011 at 06:09 AM.
Good stuff on gluing there, but that is tape method, which, if you search this forum, you will find many have abandoned as it supposedly near impossible to get tire off without destroying it.
Originally Posted by pigpen
My favorite gluing thread is here: The Art of Gluing Tubular Tires
I am disciple of wunlap togo -- see his posts on that thread.
Here's my biggest lesson regarding tubulars: GET A SPARE PAIR OF RIMS FOR STRETCHING YOUR GLUED TUBIES. I finally did what wunlap togo said to do. Last week I took tubies off wheels (rolled one), put on glue (few coats), then when they were dry, I struggled to get them on my new-to-me spare rims. (Tires had been off rims for only few days but already shrunk!!). But since the glue was dry, I did not make my usual mess when I glue tires. Today, I put another coat of glue on rims and almost like butter I was able to put the tires on. Soooo much easier when they are stretched out. If the foregoing does not make sense, ignore me and just do what wunlap says.
Wunlap is the man.
If you are going to do tubulars (and glue yourself), you MUST get a spare pair of rims for stretching. If you don't get the spare rims, you may instead get a hammer. Hit yourself ten times on the head with the hammer before you make a mess getting the tires on your rims. The process will feel much less painful after you have hit yourself on the head with a hammer.
I am interested in trying CX racing locally. I want to build a klunker bike 1x1 or 1x # and stick with cheap mtn bike stuff. Are 26" mtb wheels illegal in most entry level races? I was thinking of running a flat-bar mtn bike with skinny tires and V's . I get it that fashion dictates you have carbon 700c, custom canti's, STI, and tubular tires no one has ever heard of, but I'm on a budget.
lung lacking loser
At the lower levels, the rules are pretty open about what you can and can't use. 26, 29, 700c are all just fine and plenty of folks start out on an mtb. The only no-no's are bar ends (can't have 'em) and sometimes fixed gears.
Originally Posted by camping biker
That's what I thought. I don't plan on any "serious" racing (power tap training, paid coaches, italian clothing, or traveling across the country). I just want to bike hard at some local stuff and make some friends. I do most of my biking on mtb xc trails, but still like my road bike and like pulling my kid with the budget hybrid CX thing. That is why I don't really want to go bang it up or pound it into the mud just yet. If I really like CX racing or events I might sacrifice it or build a specific bike, but I need that one right now. Plus singlespeed and mud go together, seems to draw friendly people about anywhere.
Carbon vs Aluminum for CX
My wife and I are jumping into Cyclocross this coming season and have started shopping for bikes. We have been looking around at a couple of different bike shops and are seriously considering the Stevens Carbon frame.
We are a bit concerned about the longevity for the carbon being used for cyclocross and have looked at some aluminum frames as well ,e.g Jamis.
What has been the experience of carbon frames holding up the abuse of racing?
We have road bikes (Specialized Tarmac) and mountain bikes (Ellsworth Truth & Evolve) currently and do the occasional triathlon.
Disc brake conversion kits fr Brake Therapy
I have an old cross bike that I want to convert to disc brakes....has anyone ever tried the conversion kits from Brake Therapy.com?
Does anyone have a BMC CX01 cycle cross bike they ride? how do you like it?
will a carbon fork make brake shudder worse because the carbon fiber is more flexible?
Fat aging guy on a bike..
Lucie, do a search the BMC.
A carbon fork could make brake shudder worse if it was more flexible, but most carbon forks are actually stiffer.
I have a MOTO Fantom CX cross bike and I am looking to make it into a comfortable commuter.
It currently has the OEM tires Kenda Kwick Cross 700 x 30c.
What do you guys suggest I put on for a better road handling for a 10 mile RT commute?
I think you are missing the spirit of commuting and over thinking it. Wear out the tires you have before thinking about replacing them.
Originally Posted by fiets
Fat aging guy on a bike..
Fiets, that is a great question for the Commuting forum. I'm sure they'll have some great info for you on your question.
Many people want to use Cyclocross bikes as Commuters. Cyclocross bikes are definitely very fun and very versatile bikes. However, this FAQ is about the sport of racing Cyclocross. No disrespect intended to those who want to use Cyclocross bikes as commuters, but the better forum to ask these questions is the Commuter Forum. You'll get answers from people that commute rather than people who race.
Last edited by cyklopath; 07-10-2012 at 03:17 PM.
thank you for the quick reply. This was my initial thought, however, after reading that these tires are made primarily for cyclocross racing, I wanted to know whether it made sense to change to road tires.
I need some help. I am a mtb rider and love it. But I broke my neck a month ago and feel I need a safer ride. My neck will be fine. I love dirt and thrill of mountain biking. I love going fast and pushing the limits. I know I will do the same on a road bike. My question is I can build a cyclocross with same drive train as a road bike and still have a little fun in the dirt and keep up with the other road bikes. Are cyclocross bikes not made for distance or just a few pounds heavier? I have no experience on or with road or cyclocross bikes. I will be buying a bike in 6 months just trying to make understand what separate them.
Good questions. Surprised no one answered already.
Originally Posted by RHud
Cx bikes are usually built from a hybrid of mountain and road drivetrain. Often, you'll see mountain rear deraileur and cog set. And, you'll see a road crank but with lower gearing, maybe 46 for big ring (53 for road). The mountain rear deraileur just gives you enough range for the large cog set.
Cx bikes are built stronger. Weight of course is relative to price. The bigger difference is in geometry. Road bikes geometry is setup for efficiency and stability at speed. Cx bikes geometry is more nimble for the tight turns.
If you are looking for something you can use across disciplines, a Cx bike can be a good option. However, it will not make a good road race bike. You could road race on a Cx bike. It doesn't work well at all to run a road bike for Cx though. If you are going to build your Cx bike for Cx racing and as your road training bike, plan for gearing. Typical road gearing would be a 53/39 paired with 12/25 cogs. If you buy a second wheelset for road, you can mount the higher geared cogs on it and make a quick swap for road riding.
Any suggestions for a 26" mountain bike tire for CX? I ride in Texas, so it is largely dry with loose corners. I haven't taken the plunge to buy a CX bike yet, but plan to after I get my 10 races and become a cat 3.
Fat aging guy on a bike..
Frizzled, you really don't need special tires for CX if you're running a MTB in a local race. Most will allow a standard MTB with out bar ends. Narrow tires might lighten the load a bit, but you'd be much better served by spending time working on your dismounts and remounts.
Thanks for the reply! I did my first 2 races last weekend, and was pretty happy with how it went (26/38 on Sat, and 18/35 Sun). I did zero practicing, and didn't struggle too much with the dismounts/remounts (actually passed 3 people during them on Sun- though one of them dropped their chain!). Think my SPD cleats might need to be replaced- had a hard time clipping in on the right. Considering CB Candy 3s as well.
I've ridden my mountain bike exactly 3 times in the last 4 years- and 2 of those were the races last week, so I need to work on my cornering. I'm sure I was hemorrhaging time on the 90 and 180 degree turns. Need to great comfortable with taking the proper lines. Was thinking some cross specific tires might be a good idea- maybe I should just get out and ride the trails
It was a great environment. Can't wait til my next race! My girlfriend is great at heckling- I think I've created a monster.
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Last edited by Erik_A; 10-23-2012 at 09:17 AM.
Ok so newbie cross questions here, I ride a Giant TCR ISP size M/L which has a 57cm TT, I have a saddle height of 81cm and a 110 stem, just curious as I would say i could ride a 57/58cm TT cross bike, set up basically like my roadie. Am I thinking correctly on this? Just would like to have a general idea in shopping for my first ride so I can be fairly close.......
Pretty much what I did.... though my fit was slightly different, as my fit is slightly more upright.
Originally Posted by dapperdan
2010 Specialized Secteur Elite with the RBR not-approved Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheelset
2009 Specialized Rockhopper Comp 29er upgraded to SRAM X9 with 1x10 and Stan's Arch EX rims and tubeless.
2013 Cannondale CAADX-6 Tiagra with 9-speed SLX RD to run 11-32T cassette and Stan's Alpha 400 rims and tubeless
Some Burton snowboard setups, one with stiff ol' Camber and one with Rocker-Camber-Rocker
So technically I would say a standard 56 TT would be a tad small, my mtn bike thinking would say standard 57cmish TT with a shorter stem would be a better route then shorter TT and longer stem? correct?
Originally Posted by tednugent
Fat aging guy on a bike..
Dan, 1cm shorter on the seat tube is a good idea, but make sure to see how bad your toe overlap with the front wheel becomes when you shorten the top tube.