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    shorty 4's, I need something better...

    I have an X0-2. Love the bike, but hate the brakes. I thought I was done with up grades for the spring, but I need to stop.

    I have been toying with the idea of just using XTR v brakes, or speed digits. But I don't like the rollamagig. Are there any brakes that are light weight, and actually stop?

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    My personal faves are Paul Neo-Retros but they are pricey. I'm not too concerned about their weight but there may be a similar style and lighter brake that works from you out there from another manufacturer.

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    My bike came stock with kore race brakes, and I am happy with them.

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    Second the Kore's. I've a set on each of my bikes. Dang good prices to boot. Unlike the [admittedly awesome] Pauls.
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    Tektro cr720's. Cheap and ton's of stopping power.Light, too. Get the pr for less than 1/2 the price of Paul's.
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    the froglegs are decent, they are sturdy and seem to stop the bike fine. You have to toe them in with vice grips, which is also nice.

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    I just ordered some trp's for my B bike. I have paul touring rear and neo-retro's front on my A bike.

    oh yea the link would help! 38 bucks a pair on sale right now
    http://www.ebikestop.com/trp_eurox_c...ray-BR7621.php

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    Tektro 720's.
    Cheap, strong, adjustable, wide profile.

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    You could just change out the brake pads and holders and straddle cables.
    Since the S4's are a 1 piece setup, going to the rim wranglers or road version of the koolstops will make a huge difference.

    S4's and S6's are the same brake but the pad is the only difference.

    Going to an "old school" straddle cable like the Avid tri-dangles, Salsa wide ones or the Ringle peace signs will also make a huge improvement The standard ones that come with the Avid brakes suck.

    If you dont have alot of mud where you race...it does not matter is you have the old wide canti's like the pauls, tektros or trp's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cx_fan
    You could just change out the brake pads and holders and straddle cables.
    Since the S4's are a 1 piece setup, going to the rim wranglers or road version of the koolstops will make a huge difference.

    S4's and S6's are the same brake but the pad is the only difference.
    good luck

    Thanks for the info! That gives me some hope on these brakes after all!!!

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    I had S4s (old model). Don't know about the new ones, but if you got the old style, I don't think there is hope. $27 and a 720 on the front will make a world of difference with the stock pads that come with the 720s. Wider means more leverage. Also, the 720s are cheaper than most fancy pads.

    http://cyclocrossworld.stores.yahoo....cr720cabr.html

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    don't get it. what's so bad about the shorty's??

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    avid8s to cr720

    Avid 8's were terrible. Different straddle, different heights, different pads, toe in toe out and still weak and terrible squeel up front. About to swap out to a disk frame/wheels but decided to try the cr720 and koolstop pads as a cheap last attempt. The cr720 work very well. No squeel and tons of power.


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    wow, you called it there. I've got the sweal up front too. perhaps something to look into.

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    i have no experience with these, but they seemed to get a few good reviews from what i could find. but the IRD cantis were on my short list http://www.interlocracing.com/brake_canti.html they're relatively inexpensive, look nice, etc. but i just got a set of neo-retros for a good price on ebay, so i'm going with those
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    I looked at the trp EuroX also, but liked the threaded holders versus the posts. well worth the money.

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    I had the S4s on my bike. What a piece of crap. I almost broke my arm because they would not stop the bike. They always sucked, but that was the last straw as I found them dangerous. I picked up a pair of the Tektro 720 for really cheap. What a night & day difference, I can finally stop. These brakes rock, tons of stopping power.

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    I have the Shorty 4s and, as someone else mentioned, changing out the pad holder things for the replaceable cartridge type makes a big difference. Now I can slide in new pads easily, and new pads (for me) made a big difference.
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    I had shorty4s and they were terrible, I finally got around to swap them (been delaying it).
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    i guess i am lucky here in nocal. we all say that brakes only slow you down. i touch my shorty 6's 4 times per lap. but, i get chatter if i grab a handful. have the 4's on the back up bike, it is defiantly in the pads. swap to a stiffer pad to get better braking. i have always loved kool stop to replace stock pads when ready.

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    Identifying Tektro 720s

    Are there any clear markings on the Tektro "high profile" cantilevers to tell if they are the cr720 model? Or is that pretty much the only similar brake that they offer?

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmp
    Are there any clear markings on the Tektro "high profile" cantilevers to tell if they are the cr720 model? Or is that pretty much the only similar brake that they offer?

    Thanks,
    They make a 520 model as well, but I think those are only OEM spec. Otherwise, they look vastly different from the Shortys, Oryx, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knucklesandwich
    They make a 520 model as well, but I think those are only OEM spec. Otherwise, they look vastly different from the Shortys, Oryx, etc.
    Hmm, ok. This would be an OEM situation (Specialized SingleCross). Any way to tell the 520s and 720s apart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moschika
    i have no experience with these, but they seemed to get a few good reviews from what i could find. but the IRD cantis were on my short list http://www.interlocracing.com/brake_canti.html they're relatively inexpensive, look nice, etc. but i just got a set of neo-retros for a good price on ebay, so i'm going with those
    I have one of the IRD Cafam (Mafac styled) brakes on the front of my slingshot crosser. Good brake, no squeel, etc. They come with the standard angled cable routers, which I would recommend not using and just use a traditional hanger and straddle cable.

    If you have heel/calf clearance issues on the back though, the wide stance of them might cause an issue. I have calf issues on my bike with Shorty 6's, so the IRDs would certainly be worse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmp
    Hmm, ok. This would be an OEM situation (Specialized SingleCross). Any way to tell the 520s and 720s apart?
    Look on the back of the arm for a casting number. Might see a 520 or 720 in it somewhere. I was able to identify my tektro brake levers this way.

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