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    Steelman build in progress... plus factory tour.

    My cross bike is finally here. I have most of the parts but no drivetrain and controls. I'd like to hear some recommendations on the drivetrain.

    I'm leaning towards just a 10-speed ultegra wit 12-27 rear cog. My only rationale for this is I have 10-speed shimano road bike and it will make swapping parts easier and controls will be familiar.

    Any ideas or nice touches you can recommend? Here's what I have so far:







    Also cockpit, 1cm shorter than my road bike. Handlebar 2cm higher??

    thanks,
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    factory tour

    On my way to work, I passed by Redwood City to pick up my new cross frame from Steelman. 'Carbonman' is the most abused joke of the year for him. And now I understand why. It's not just a side project for him. It's an obsession... a perfection.

    His new carbon beauties perform better in almost every respect than steel (so I'm told) and they weigh 2.5 lbs.

    Anyway, here's the master and his work:

    The new headbadge is silver-welded on to the frame then painted over. He then sands out the paint to finish it off:




    Prepping the seat-tube:


    And finally, his breath-taking carbon babies:








    Complete factory tour photos coming soon.

    francois

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    Wow

    That carbon frame is gorgeous.

    Nice Eurocross. Hope we can see it at Pilarcitos primed and ready to go.

    What brakes are those? I have changed to Spooky's but I think I'd rather do Paul's now. Too much PITA to adjust the spooky's.

    Maybe some Midge bars or WTB Dirt Drops if you can find 'em.

    Ultegra 10 would be nice, but you'd probably never use the big ring in a race. Maybe a 1x10? Though that'd be a first, as far as I know.

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    several guys here are using 1x10 with no issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldskoolboarder
    That carbon frame is gorgeous.

    Nice Eurocross. Hope we can see it at Pilarcitos primed and ready to go.

    What brakes are those? I have changed to Spooky's but I think I'd rather do Paul's now. Too much PITA to adjust the spooky's.

    Maybe some Midge bars or WTB Dirt Drops if you can find 'em.

    Ultegra 10 would be nice, but you'd probably never use the big ring in a race. Maybe a 1x10? Though that'd be a first, as far as I know.
    Yep. Those are Paul brakes. I also have the Paul levers.

    Mann, I got a lot to learn. Midge bars, Dirt Drops, 1x10? I need a dictionary... or some links.

    fc

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Yep. Those are Paul brakes. I also have the Paul levers.

    Mann, I got a lot to learn. Midge bars, Dirt Drops, 1x10? I need a dictionary... or some links.

    fc
    You asked for suggestions. I have 2. The first is a long-drop cable hanger for the front. The 2nd is one of those jump-stop chain watcher things.

    You tested Nokon cables on at least one of your bikes. Are you impressed enough with them you are going to spring for another set?

    1x10 means one chainring.
    Are you going to run 1 or 2 chainings? If it's a race bike only, 1 ring is a good choice. If you want it to be an all-around bike, stick with 2. For cyclocross a 36-46 chainring option is what you want. FSA is now selling cranks with that set-up. To me the traditional 48-38 was a little big for most people. Then again, I swear by the 42t single-ring set-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Yep. Those are Paul brakes. I also have the Paul levers.

    Mann, I got a lot to learn. Midge bars, Dirt Drops, 1x10? I need a dictionary... or some links.

    fc
    Nice build...looks like my older Steelman that I bought 5 years ago but without the 1 1/8 head tube. Trying to decide whether to go for another one but with a slightly sloping TT...depends on whether I can get the funds, though. Thought you would be bugging Brent about making you a carbon Eurocross!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlbcx
    Thought you would be bugging Brent about making you a carbon Eurocross!!
    I would like to see that...

    Yeah, 1x10 would be good, cause then you could still swap rear wheels w/ your roadie if you wanted. Chain watcher might be good because of the longer chain too, good idea.

    http://www.on-one.co.uk/products/midge.shtml

    Also, add to that a good set of lungs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euro-trash
    You asked for suggestions. I have 2. The first is a long-drop cable hanger for the front. The 2nd is one of those jump-stop chain watcher things.

    You tested Nokon cables on at least one of your bikes. Are you impressed enough with them you are going to spring for another set?

    1x10 means one chainring.
    Are you going to run 1 or 2 chainings? If it's a race bike only, 1 ring is a good choice. If you want it to be an all-around bike, stick with 2. For cyclocross a 36-46 chainring option is what you want. FSA is now selling cranks with that set-up. To me the traditional 48-38 was a little big for most people. Then again, I swear by the 42t single-ring set-up.
    Nokon cables... good call. My cables have been flawless for the last 6 months. I get them really cheap too. Installation is a beach but second time around should be easy.

    2 chainrings for now. I don't race yet and I want to see what this bike can do as a road bike. I got lots of wheels.

    Thanks for the input,
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    Sickly beautiful..

    Man that thing is beautiful! You gotta post a pic once it's all built up. What color is that?
    Get this thing off my head!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by francois

    Also cockpit, 1cm shorter than my road bike. Handlebar 2cm higher??

    thanks,
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    It's personal preference. Go to cyclocrossworld.com, Adam Hodge Meyerson (misspell I'm sure) wrote a good piece on cyclocross bike fit. I like the same length reach with my handlebar just 1 cm higher than on my road bike.
    I use 44cm bars on my road bike, but I prefer 46cm bars on my cross bike. I really like the Deda Magic bar, it's stiff, light, and reasonably priced.

    I think there is a whole series of articles on cross for roadies Adam HM wrote on the Cyclesmart website. Also, buy his DVD. I haven't seen it yet, but it's been getting really good reviews in this forum.

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    "just getting ultegra..."

    So there I was at Supergo buying some Ultegra stuff. No need to bother my Shimano connections I thought. It takes too long to get an industry deal and this is just ultegra.

    Rang up the shift levers....
    "$377!!!"

    Ding, ding, ding. Did I win?

    Holy Mole. $377 for shift levers? Ultegra? I want some answers!

    fc

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    some nice black cranks

    since it appears you are 'going stealth'. I'd say 105 shifters in black as well, go 9 and save some COIN.
    sorry, I'm cheap
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    still not figgering on biggering

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    It's done! Photo here:
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Steelman build in progress... plus factory tour.-img_3209.jpg  

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    Nice

    hey, you forgot the chain! Nice bike, what tire set up are you going to use?
    Get this thing off my head!!!!!
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    Just kidding about that previous photo... he, he.

    Here it is with zero miles.19.6 lbs. First ride is this afternoon.






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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Just kidding about that previous photo... he, he.

    Here it is with zero miles.19.6 lbs. First ride is this afternoon.





    HA, Reynolds on a CX? You must've been planning a nice wheel budget for the season...

    What wheels are you running now? Speedrifics? American Classics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldskoolboarder
    HA, Reynolds on a CX? You must've been planning a nice wheel budget for the season...

    What wheels are you running now? Speedrifics? American Classics?
    Those are Dave Thomas Speed Dream wheels. Velocity VXC rims, white rear hub and Am Classic front, Sapim spokes. A beautiful wheel from the master builder.

    We'll see how they work.

    fc

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    Lever

    Will you be changing you brake levers around so the rear is on the left and front is on the right? Beautiful bike for sure. I bet it would be great for long dirt road rides!
    Get this thing off my head!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Those are Dave Thomas Speed Dream wheels. Velocity VXC rims, white rear hub and Am Classic front, Sapim spokes. A beautiful wheel from the master builder.

    We'll see how they work.

    fc
    Beautiful. Like 'em better than any ksyriums or blade spoke wheels i've seen.

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    Ha! Just saw this. Good stuff.

    Hope the ride at Fremont was fun. I've discovered lots of cool cross routes on what were otherwise boooring mountain bike roads. Like, the climb up Hicks and then across the fireroads to Kennedy and down the face. You haven't lived till you go down the face and then overgrown on the cross bike. Yeehaw! Great loops can be made with the Montes too. (Vina and Bella). Heck, even St Joes is fun on a cx bike.

    I can't quite make out the tires you are using. If I am using the cx bike on mtb trails, I like running Tufos. That way I can run lower pressures, for better control and comfort, and not pinch flat.

    There's something to be said for the freedom of riding one bike efficiently on both road and dirt.

    Sabine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabine
    I can't quite make out the tires you are using. If I am using the cx bike on mtb trails, I like running Tufos. That way I can run lower pressures, for better control and comfort, and not pinch flat.
    they look like panaracers to me.

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