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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobsn View Post
    Oh boy, do I love those marketing terms.
    What is Gravel? What is Endurance? ...
    By the bike you like most and suites your need.
    And if you tell us your needs, we can tell you if the VR can fit those.

    Comparing the Breezer Inversion and the Felt VR, both are made for a stabile and comfortable ride.
    Good points. So my needs aren't too many. Comfortable ride, ability to fit 38c tires, prefer hydro brakes but not necessary, looks good, and within my budget of $1550.

    Something strange that I did notice on the VR30 is the 3 bottle mounts in the triangle. It looks like you won't be able to fit a large bottle on the seat tube because the mount sits so high up. Can anyone confirm that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPoser View Post
    Good points. So my needs aren't too many. Comfortable ride, ability to fit 38c tires, prefer hydro brakes but not necessary, looks good, and within my budget of $1550....
    I thing the VR can all the above.
    If disc breaks I would always go for hydraulic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPoser View Post
    Good points. So my needs aren't too many. Comfortable ride, ability to fit 38c tires, prefer hydro brakes but not necessary, looks good, and within my budget of $1550.

    Something strange that I did notice on the VR30 is the 3 bottle mounts in the triangle. It looks like you won't be able to fit a large bottle on the seat tube because the mount sits so high up. Can anyone confirm that?
    The only thing I'd question based on my VR5 are the 38c tires. 35c should fit with close clearance, but 38c might be a stretch, especially depending on how knobby the tread is. You know that 30c is the "official" limit, but that's based on a clearance standard that is mandated but rather generous. My current 32c tires have plenty of clearance. This is one thing that might separate the VR series from more dedicated "gravel" or cyclocross bikes, which are usually able to take a wider tire with ease.

    The bottle mount configuration is a bit strange on the VR30 and different from mine, which has only two. Also, my seat tube bottle mount is lower than on the VR30 -- not sure why the difference there either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rochrunner View Post
    The only thing I'd question based on my VR5 are the 38c tires. 35c should fit with close clearance, but 38c might be a stretch, especially depending on how knobby the tread is. You know that 30c is the "official" limit, but that's based on a clearance standard that is mandated but rather generous. My current 32c tires have plenty of clearance. This is one thing that might separate the VR series from more dedicated "gravel" or cyclocross bikes, which are usually able to take a wider tire with ease.

    The bottle mount configuration is a bit strange on the VR30 and different from mine, which has only two. Also, my seat tube bottle mount is lower than on the VR30 -- not sure why the difference there either.

    Thanks. Yes I'll be running 35's or 36's right off the bat, but may switch to a 32 if I do something like the RAMROD or similar. Many other "gravel" bikes will fit 38's and higher, so that's why I ask.

    I really don't like the bottle mounting. I don't want to have 2 small bottles and a 3rd large one. I'd rather have just 2 large bottles. That does turn me off a bit.

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    This weekend I found a good work-life-balance.
    Had to work over the weekend, but managed to do the travel by bike.
    Thanks to my colleges which took care of my luggage.

    Beautiful landscape

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    And even a gallows

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    I just got back from the shop with my new FSA Modular Adventure 46/30 crankset installed. If you have a VR2, this is what came on your bike, but it's an upgrade for my VR5. Also saves 235 grams!



    The dealer told me that he hadn't sold any more (or few) bikes like mine or higher (VR2-VR5), but that the aluminum VR30s and VR40s are selling well. Their price-point seems to hit a sweet spot in the local market (this is not a high-end road bike area).

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    Nice! I'm waiting till they become in stock in the UK and I'll be ordering one for my VR30. I've had my VR for 6 months now and I absolutely love it! In fact I have just sold my carbon Felt road bike because I enjoy riding my VR that much! I've got a new second set of wheels, DT Swiss R23 spline DB fitted with Schwalbe 30mm s-one tyres and then have some 35mm Schwalbe g-one tyres fitted onto the original wheels. Seems perfect to switch from road/light gravel set-up to heavier gravel set-up. I've also changed the bars and stem as I felt the 35mm diameter spec, as standard, was too stiff when riding gravel. I wanted a bit more flex so dropped down to a more conventional 31.8mm bar and stem combo.

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    I have the stock +/- 6 degree stem (100mm), but believe I want to ride in a more upright position. I found a +/- 25 degree stem, but that sounds a little drastic. Is anyone riding a stem somewhere in between - was thinking maybe a 12 degree stem, assuming there is such a thing? I believe there are adjustable stems, but not interested in those (I don't know, just don't think I would like it).

    BTW, the 6 degree is fine for 20- 25 miles or so, but typically like to ride about 50 miles.

    Thanks so much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffBinder View Post
    I have the stock +/- 6 degree stem (100mm), but believe I want to ride in a more upright position. I found a +/- 25 degree stem, but that sounds a little drastic. Is anyone riding a stem somewhere in between - was thinking maybe a 12 degree stem, assuming there is such a thing? I believe there are adjustable stems, but not interested in those (I don't know, just don't think I would like it).

    BTW, the 6 degree is fine for 20- 25 miles or so, but typically like to ride about 50 miles.

    Thanks so much!
    3t and others make a 17 degree stem. I think specialized makes sort of inserts for their stems which have a variety of possible angles so you may want to look into that.

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    Thanks!!! I found a couple of manufacturers.

    I can get both 10 and 17 degree. I am thinking 17 sounds about right. I have been told, (paraphrasing): To keep the same reach (of a 6 degree 100mm stem), you would want to go with a 110mm length. The 110mm at 17 degree would give you the same reach and bring the bars 2.2 cm higher.

    2.2 cm does not sound like much, but am guessing it is more than I think. Just need to decide if I want to shorten the reach (stay at 100mm).

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    2 cm is a lot, that's typical of the difference between a race oriented frame and a relaxed 'endurance' frame so I think you will notice a big difference. I would hold reach constant for now so you aren't messing with too much all at once. If you haven't looked at them yet craigslist and ebay are good sources to find stems inexpensively from new bike take offs or people like you that are experimenting with their fit. I usually consider $40 or below a good price for a name brand aluminum stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffBinder View Post
    Thanks!!! I found a couple of manufacturers.

    I can get both 10 and 17 degree. I am thinking 17 sounds about right. I have been told, (paraphrasing): To keep the same reach (of a 6 degree 100mm stem), you would want to go with a 110mm length. The 110mm at 17 degree would give you the same reach and bring the bars 2.2 cm higher.

    2.2 cm does not sound like much, but am guessing it is more than I think. Just need to decide if I want to shorten the reach (stay at 100mm).
    And have you decided?
    I personal prefer a lower but closer cockpit. That is why I switched to a 80mm stem.
    But i think, this is a very personal decision.

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    Somehow I come not to an end with my bike.
    Last month I had a lot of maintenance to do.
    Ok, break bleeding and changing pads is normal task.
    But I also had already to replace the bar tape (Lizard Skin), which some how was worn off very fast and was getting ugly. Changed now to a all black (boring) Fabric tape. At least I becoming very experienced in wrapping handle bars.
    The Schwalbe rear tire is also already gone. After some trail and dirt roads It got a 12mm cut, which wouldn't seal reliable. I replaced it with the same tire, but as soon there is a good alternative I will switch (I don't like Schwalbe).
    And now i also had to replace the seatpost. Even using a torque wrench, the screwing of the head break out. I wrote to 3T, but now answer yet. So I got a new post, which also solved the cracking I observed the last weeks.

    Yesterday on a sunny, warm and quiet evening ride.


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    Unhappy

    Darn-it, the LBS ordered the wrong stem, did not fit the handlebar. They ordered a 31.8mm stem, but the VR5 came with a 35mm handlebar (wonder if this is a non-standard size. Will have to wait some more

    I am picking up my bike from my LBS today- took it in for the initial maintenance (about 200 miles). Just minor adjustments needed. Also purchased the 110mm 17 degree stem. This will supposedly provide about a 2.2 cm higher, with the same reach. I think they simply installed a generic stem, probably equivalent quality to OEM. If I am not happy, they will order and install a different stem, maybe a 100 mm 17 degree to shorten the reach slightly. I will keep you posted. Thanks!

    Thinking about installing fatter tires, maybe 32-35 CM - sounds like they should fit no problem. Want to take the bike more off road, instead of the trails I am currently riding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffBinder View Post
    Darn-it, the LBS ordered the wrong stem, did not fit the handlebar. They ordered a 31.8mm stem, but the VR5 came with a 35mm handlebar (wonder if this is a non-standard size. Will have to wait some more

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    Thinking about installing fatter tires, maybe 32-35 CM - sounds like they should fit no problem. Want to take the bike more off road, instead of the trails I am currently riding.
    I only noticed the bar diameter when I bought an accessory that fits a max 31.8 bar and couldn't figure out why it didn't work until I measured the bar!

    I've got 32s on mine with clearance left, although if I had it to do over I might have gotten tires with more of an off-road tread. The Conti 4 Seasons do well enough, but not so great in really loose/sandy/slippery stuff, especially up an incline. But for most of the normal dirt/gravel roads in the area they work fine.

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    I have to update my post. I have NOT been able to find a stem that has a 100/110mm reach with a 17 degree angle AND WITH A 35mm CLAMP. My LBS could also not find a stem that fits the bike. Do I have to purchase new handlebars just to purchase a new stem? I have texted Felt and have not yet received a response. I will keep everyone posted if anyone is interested.

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    Does any know if the RSL3 Disc hubs that are specified with some of the VR models are SRAM XD driver-compatible?

    Just curious... Thanks!

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    At the moment I'm in the Swiss Alps for the other gravel riding.

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    But I also found time to show the VR the big mountains.
    We did a nice round over three mountain passes.
    The VR did very well, no matter if it was tarmac, concrete plates or cobblestones.

    Passo della Novena from Ullrichen

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    Passo del San Gottardo over Val Tremola

    The Tremola is an old beautiful road with over 1000 feet finest cobblestones. You have to google it.

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    Furkapass from Realp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobsn View Post
    At the moment I'm in the Swiss Alps for the other gravel riding.
    Please stop with the posts like this -- you are making me insanely jealous!

    Also making me feel even older than I am...

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    Changing out the stem

    Here is the response from Felt, regarding a 17 degree stem:

    Unfortunately at this time, we do not offer VR stems with a 17-degree rise--they are only available in a +- 6-degree rise. If you're looking specifically for a 17-degree stem, you will have to replace the handlebar, unfortunately.

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    Lucky you.
    I found a last picture for you.


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    But this is it.
    We done only one road tour and were mainly mountain biking.

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    @rochrunner: Really enjoyed reading your blog, very interesting. I like tours with a motto.

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