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    Carrying firearms and cycling: Who does it? Legal? Saddle bag used as storage legal?l

    Anybody carrying? Been thinking about it since I ride at night a lot. But then again if I was stopped I wonder about the legality of carrying on a carbon bike(or any bicycle ) - especially in California, where carrying outside is pretty much illegal.

    Well, if I put it in my locked seat saddle...that isn't carrying now is it...that is a locked trunk "in my mind", and in CA, when transporting a firearm, basically if it's locked in a trunk, it's legal - still think it might be illegal and I have never done this BTW, scouts honor .

    Obviously carrying illegally is not advisable if you are riding at night or any time really of course - but if you were thinking you could get away with it at night know you might be considered suspicious by the police to be some kind of burglar or thief. Heck we are suspicious for wearing spandex...just sayin. But any way, there is a good chance they could find probable cause to do a search....though highly unlikely in most circumstances unless you give them consent, of course.

    Technically I am the same as a vehicle on the road...follow the same rules. So does that mean my rear saddle with a lock on it can be considered a trunk, or perhaps my backpack could be? If I get a lockable compact form fitting case, and put put the firearm in my saddle bag which is also locked...then it might be legal in CA...hmmm...not too sure.

    Thinking about it, if you ride at night alone on a bike worth a few grand or more, or even $500 or more, it seems practical to carry a small .357 with some decent stopping power. You are on a bike, very vulnerable, dark area, no police....carrying seems justified. Better than the alternative of getting shot and losing your bike. You'll at least have a fighting chance. Of course it might take too long to get into that locked bag, and locked case, lol.

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    Meh. What's the point? You're a moving target, and even the most baller bike isn't worth you--or a would-be thief--dying over, so....what's the point again? Give them the bike and walk away safe. It's a stupid thing to get shot over.

    Show me statistics for bikes stolen WHILE BEING RIDDEN. If you ride through a rough neighborhood on your training rides, find another route. I live in Brooklyn, and I've never ridden through an neighborhood that made me wish I had a gun. Even the sketchiest places last a few blocks, and you're out of there in no time.

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    Carrying firearms and cycling: Who does it? Legal? Saddle bag used as storage l

    Fwiw a buddy of mine was attacked on a bus route a few miles from my house by some punks who wanted his bike. He got away with his bike to a busy street and flagged down some passing cars, but needed medical attention.
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    I'm all for packing heat and I'm all for defending yourself from maggots. My only question would be, how hard/long does take to get to your piece if you needed it?

    I know laws are laws but screw that! I say strap it to the frame!

    I'm a gun owner and don't want my rights infringed upon. That's why I live in idaho and Texas before we moved here.

    Good luck dude. Fight the power!!

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    Fits a CC perfectly and easy to reach. Just make sure you have your permit with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalel View Post
    Anybody carrying? Been thinking about it since I ride at night a lot. But then again if I was stopped I wonder about the legality of carrying on a carbon bike(or any bicycle ) - especially in California, where carrying outside is pretty much illegal.

    Well, if I put it in my locked seat saddle...that isn't carrying now is it...that is a locked trunk "in my mind", and in CA, when transporting a firearm, basically if it's locked in a trunk, it's legal - still think it might be illegal and I have never done this BTW, scouts honor .

    Obviously carrying illegally is not advisable if you are riding at night or any time really of course - but if you were thinking you could get away with it at night know you might be considered suspicious by the police to be some kind of burglar or thief. Heck we are suspicious for wearing spandex...just sayin. But any way, there is a good chance they could find probable cause to do a search....though highly unlikely in most circumstances unless you give them consent, of course.

    Technically I am the same as a vehicle on the road...follow the same rules. So does that mean my rear saddle with a lock on it can be considered a trunk, or perhaps my backpack could be? If I get a lockable compact form fitting case, and put put the firearm in my saddle bag which is also locked...then it might be legal in CA...hmmm...not too sure.

    Thinking about it, if you ride at night alone on a bike worth a few grand or more, or even $500 or more, it seems practical to carry a small .357 with some decent stopping power. You are on a bike, very vulnerable, dark area, no police....carrying seems justified. Better than the alternative of getting shot and losing your bike. You'll at least have a fighting chance. Of course it might take too long to get into that locked bag, and locked case, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJP Diver View Post
    At this point I'll invoke Rule #5

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    Jesus christ, is it that time of year again that we get yet ANOTHER "ride with guns" thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by robdamanii View Post
    Jesus christ, is it that time of year again that we get yet ANOTHER "ride with guns" thread?
    Would you rather discuss waving?

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    Depending on what county in CA you reside in, you may be able to get a concealed handgun permit. We have a may-issue system here where the local Sheriff can pretty much arbitrarily decide if you get a permit or not. But in many counties with decent Sheriffs, any law-abiding citizen who takes the proper training and passes the background checks will be issued a permit. With some online searching you should be able to determine the likelihood of getting a permit in your county. It's a big responsibility though and only as a last line of defense in a life-threatening situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tihsepa View Post
    Would you rather discuss waving?
    We're missing another important area of recurring discussion here----the OP wants to carry his piece in a (gasp) saddle bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tihsepa View Post
    Would you rather discuss waving?
    At least waving doesn't usually end up in PO.
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    It only ends up in PO because the people who don't like guns can't seem to stay away from threads about them.

    OP: Locking it in a saddle bag won't do you any good. If you get separated from your bike then you also lost the gun.

    Even if you can get a CCW, sticking it in your jersey pocket pretty much assures that you won't get a good grip on it when if you need it.

    The best measure here is just good ole situational awareness and being the "better" man if there is a confrontation.
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    Legal or not, carrying in a saddle bag is stupid.

    If you're gonna carry, carry on your body, in a secure holster where you'll have full control of the pistol.

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    so, describe a situation where one would have sufficient time to assess a threat, withdraw a concealed weapon, and then either use it or negotiate a withdrawl.

    having a hard time envisioning a viable 'Rambo on a Bike' scenario...
    eff all y'all...

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    Agree with most of the above: The question is irrelevant.

    What you are discussing is a way to get both your bike and your gun stolen. The realistic scenarios where this weapon would end up used / useful are pretty much non-existent, and dwarfed by the number of ways it would be worse than nothing.

    Plus, there's the matter of all that weight.

    This would be an interesting question if we were discussing car-free living and how to get to the range. Otherwise, it's just poorly thought out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxtox View Post
    so, describe a situation where one would have sufficient time to assess a threat, withdraw a concealed weapon, and then either use it or negotiate a withdrawl.

    having a hard time envisioning a viable 'Rambo on a Bike' scenario...
    After being knocked to the ground it could be of some use stopping the bad guy from stomping a mud hole in your ass.

    That is if it's holstered and you are proficient in unholstering the pistol and aligning the sights.

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    If I thought I needed to carry a gun biking, I wouldn't bike there. The only time I would consider carrying a gun is in a Camelback in bear country, and even then a .44 magnum at point blank range is questionable.
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    Here's a good read for you gun folks. (not an anti-gun screed)

    Politics aside, I think the only thing that could make a grown man look like more of a dork in spandex would be a gun holster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMook View Post
    [URL="http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/08/eric-nelson/the-truth-about-bicycle-carry/"]

    Politics aside, I think the only thing that could make a grown man look like more of a dork in spandex would be a gun holster.
    That may or not be, but if a person is gonna carry, they should carry smart.

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    If you're in CA, unless you know "people" (or in one of the few counties that will issue after a mess of testing), you are not likely to be able to get a carry permit. That would make it illegal.

    If you want to, check with your local sheriff to find out the procedure to get a permit and go from there.

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    You'll want to open carry for the deterrent effect:
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMook View Post
    Politics aside, I think the only thing that could make a grown man look like more of a dork in spandex would be a gun holster.
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