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    Chain Lube

    We all are searching for the next best road bike chain lube. I have been using white lightning wax lube for a few years after getting tired of the wet oil based lube that often left a grease tattoo on my leg or socks. A member of my club swears by rock and roll absolute dry lube. I tried to look up the composition of it via their website looking for a MSDS or maybe a statement of it containing PTFE or some other synthetic component but I cannot find any information. Can anyone share their experiences with it and any information they may know on what this product contains?
    Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by baxter21 View Post
    We all are searching for the next best road bike chain lube.
    No we're not.

    You're doing the wax thing wrong, you're using the wrong one.

    Research Squirt lube.
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    Maybe I wasn't clear in my post. I changed from an oil based lube to a wax lube several years ago. I made no mention of how I was applying the wax lube. I am applying it correctly. Squirt lube does not look much different than any other wax lube. My question was regarding absolute dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baxter21 View Post
    I have been using white lightning wax lube for a few years after getting tired of the wet oil based lube that often left a grease tattoo on my leg or socks.
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    use a torque wrench

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    Unless you're trying to win a World Championship on the track in a very short event you don't need to be worrying about watts saved or gained by any particular lube. You want (or should want) something that stays on your chain, keeps it running quietly and smoothly, and is relatively easy to apply and keep clean. White Lightning fails at all of those. Use an 'oil' and learn to not bump your leg into the chainring when unclipped. Unclip your left foot when stopping, that helps. White Lightning and other wax lubes are the only things I won't use. I'm not very picky about lubrication as long as it's not WL or something like it. Light-medium oils are great. They do what they're supposed to and are easy to clean up. Don't use your own faults as reasons for using sub-par lubes.
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    We should have one big blow-out thread that covers lube, tire pressure, disc-or-not, vertical compliance/lateral rigidity, long vs short cage, which direction to wrap your tape, and how much Mavic wheels suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    We should have one big blow-out thread that covers lube, tire pressure, disc-or-not, vertical compliance/lateral rigidity, long vs short cage, which direction to wrap your tape, and how much Mavic wheels suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    Unless you're trying to win a World Championship on the track in a very short event you don't need to be worrying about watts saved or gained by any particular lube. You want (or should want) something that stays on your chain, keeps it running quietly and smoothly, and is relatively easy to apply and keep clean. White Lightning fails at all of those. Use an 'oil' and learn to not bump your leg into the chainring when unclipped. Unclip your left foot when stopping, that helps. White Lightning and other wax lubes are the only things I won't use. I'm not very picky about lubrication as long as it's not WL or something like it. Light-medium oils are great. They do what they're supposed to and are easy to clean up. Don't use your own faults as reasons for using sub-par lubes.
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    To the OP -

    We all are searching for the next best road bike chain lube.
    No we're not. I can't speak for the others but I quit looking maybe 25 years ago.

    I have been using white lightning wax lube
    Ok now I'm widya. I'd be still looking too if I hadn't gotten past this stuff in my search.

    getting tired of the wet oil based lube that often left a grease tattoo
    You're doing something wrong. I use an oil-based lube and can't remember the last "grease tattoo" I had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by factory feel View Post
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    I think White Lightning is great.... for pedals. But for chains? Dry lubes displace and don't flow back to where they were. Which is obvious if you think about it. This is why I don't put a lot of faith in short term bench tests of freshly lubed chains when thinking about the real world of cycling.

    Since I have not posted this in a long time, here's what I do for normal maintenance:

    WD-40 a rag and wipe the chain. Backpedal the chain and lay a thin amount of lube on the chain (from the top, right in front of the derailleur). Spin the chain a few times. Then I pedal the bike in a relatively high gear to put pressure on the chain. This drives out any excess. Wipe the chain and ride for a long time.

    If I slip, like if I have the lube drip bottle too far open, I pedal and wipe a couple of times. Then ride around the block, if my slip was particularly bad, before a final wipe. Does the trick.
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    On my bikes, the chain runs within an inch of my inner thigh or knee. It's so close that if I don't shave that area, the chain will depil for me. For me, cleanliness is the number one concern, even ahead of actual lubricating value. Virtually every wet lube I've tried has left a greasy mark on my leg, so I've been using WL for years. With WL I may get a small mark on my leg, but it wipes off easily. I have to scrape off my jockey pulleys and cassette gears occasionally, but that's worth the price of not having greasy marks on my legs.

    I'll happily take recommendations for other dry-type lubes as long as they don't leave an oily residue, including inside the chain. IMHO, if you have to wipe the chain down after lubing to be 'clean', then the lube isn't really clean.

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    That's all I'm gonna say. Let the war begin, and all that... On my upright bike cleanliness isn't so important and I don't have a favorite lube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazingPedals View Post
    That's all I'm gonna say. Let the war begin, and all that... On my upright bike cleanliness isn't so important and I don't have a favorite lube.
    Pretty sure the name of the forum is 'Road Bike Review'...not 'Recumbent Review'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baxter21 View Post
    A member of my club swears by rock and roll absolute dry lube. ...Can anyone share their experiences with it...
    Thanks in advance
    RNR Absolute Dry is a excellent lube for most road cycling conditions. Can't tell you about the composition, but it does it's job very well. Try it! It is a lot cleaner and lower maintenance than the Gold formula (which is also a very good lube for dirty conditions).
    There I was...

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    Though it seems I'm in the minority, I'm a fan of white lightning. Yes, it's a little more of a hassle to apply, since you need to let it set up, and it ends up costing a little more, because it doesn't seem to last as long as other lubes. But the chain runs fine and stays clean when used properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwiffle View Post
    Though it seems I'm in the minority, I'm a fan of white lightning. Yes, it's a little more of a hassle to apply, since you need to let it set up, and it ends up costing a little more, because it doesn't seem to last as long as other lubes. But the chain runs fine and stays clean when used properly.
    If one defines clean as completely black and gunky, then yes - WL keeps the chain clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crit_boy View Post
    If one defines clean as completely black and gunky, then yes - WL keeps the chain clean.
    I've never had that issue on any of my bikes. (Though I certainly have on customers' bikes; they probably apply too much, too frequently, without wiping the chain after applying the lube)
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    Yet another lube thread...


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    lubed my chain yesterday.

    got 924 miles on this application interval...

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