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    Does switching to Campagnolo turn you into a Snob?

    Or make you look down your nose at others running perceived lesser group sets?

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    yes, having any taste at all may place you in the "snob" category as many look down their noses to stereotype you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by factory feel View Post
    Or make you look down your nose at others running perceived lesser group sets?
    No, it genuinely makes you better than everyone who rides other (crap) groupos. I'm assuming you're only talking about Super Record? The lesser groupos (like Record) indicate that you likely drive a Yugo and have an "also ran" wife.

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    Doesn't make you snobbish at all, it just makes you rightly look down on the unwashed peasant masses.
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    Why do you ask? Have you ever run Campy? If you had, you'd have answered your own question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by factory feel View Post
    Or make you look down your nose at others running perceived lesser group sets?
    I was going to say "no" but then I feel like I am looking down on you right now

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    Campy is the symptom of snobbery... not the cause. IE- not all snobs run campy, but everyone with campy is a snob.


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    Let them eat Shimano.

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    Campy chorus and above are so quiet and smooth through the gears... you won't be a snob... but you may be feeling pity for other less fortunate riders when you hear the deafening buzz and clatter of their shimano and sram junk as you silently pass them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPlKE View Post
    Campy chorus and above are so quiet and smooth through the gears... you won't be a snob... but you may be feeling pity for other less fortunate riders when you hear the deafening buzz and clatter of their shimano and sram junk as you silently pass them.
    Not if you have a Campag freehub, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    Not if you have a Campag freehub, lol.
    My Chorus is absolutely silent when I'm pedaling. Literally unmeasurable sound levels. There's probably more noise in deep space than my campy drivetrain makes.

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    I have a Chorus bike, have to admit it shifts nicely and looks good but doesn't have anything on Shimano IMHO, both are reliable, both have quick and positive shifts and both are quiet, what more can you ask for?
    What I can't get over, however, is that thumb shifter, WTH were they thinking with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by upstateSC-rider View Post
    I have a Chorus bike, have to admit it shifts nicely and looks good but doesn't have anything on Shimano IMHO, both are reliable, both have quick and positive shifts and both are quiet, what more can you ask for?
    What I can't get over, however, is that thumb shifter, WTH were they thinking with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by upstateSC-rider View Post
    I have a Chorus bike, have to admit it shifts nicely and looks good but doesn't have anything on Shimano IMHO, both are reliable, both have quick and positive shifts and both are quiet, what more can you ask for?
    What I can't get over, however, is that thumb shifter, WTH were they thinking with that?
    Each lever\button has it's own job, seems like a pretty good plan to me.
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    Repeat this before and after every ride and you too will be allowed into cyclists heaven:

    "I believe in Tullio the father, Valentino the son, and the Holy Spoke."
    Life is short... enjoy the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPlKE View Post
    My Chorus is absolutely silent when I'm pedaling. Literally unmeasurable sound levels. There's probably more noise in deep space than my campy drivetrain makes.
    Yeah, and when you stop pedaling, that solid whirr of the substantial freewheel pawls reassures the thing won't give up on ya anytime soon! Campy did that on purpose, in keeping with bikes as mechanical extensions of the body. When rider shifts, the lever talks back and say, "Ok, got it!"

    Shimano goes for a more stealthy feel. Both companies are a reflection of the cultures from which they sprang, the one inscrutable, tricky, hard to service [Shimano], the other out front, simple, easy to service [Campy].

    Custom commuter set up in '85 with Campy Record and original Super Record: the old polished steel alloy headset and bottom bracket are still in great shape after 60,000+ miles. Racers got 150,000 miles on 'em back in the day. So I'm only half way through their useful service. No cracked balls, races smooth and unblemished. I kept thinking with each maintenance session over the years, "About time to upgrade with the new!" Then the ghost of Tullio pipes in, "Not yet my friend, not yet! Ride on!"

    And don't get me started on hub bearings! Three pairs of Record hub wheels I've run since the '80s are still smooth as silk. Record back then was the overbuilt everyday riding gruppo. Super Record was lightened up with aluminum. 90% of the racers used it exclusively until Dura Ace came up to speed in the mid '80s.

    Campy engineers remain stedfast lovers of cycling. They share the spirit of heart dropping performance with Ferrari and Lamborghini. Shimano is still the fishing rod interloper out to make money, IMO. Their top of the line bikes are like Lexus. Maybe they'll figure it out eventually. Old steel Italian bikes are treasured by the Japanese, accentuated in their love of keirin, drag racing on short straight courses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mackgoo View Post
    Why do you ask? Have you ever run Campy? If you had, you'd have answered your own question.
    I still believe the OP, factory feel, was instructed by the admin to go on a covert operation of reviving the forum traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upstateSC-rider View Post
    I have a Chorus bike, have to admit it shifts nicely and looks good but doesn't have anything on Shimano IMHO, both are reliable, both have quick and positive shifts and both are quiet, what more can you ask for?
    What I can't get over, however, is that thumb shifter, WTH were they thinking with that?
    No way. Campy shifting is quicker than Shimano. I have both.

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    I've seen plenty of problems with both Shimano and Campy. Campy just has different issues, like chain suck, losing abrasion plates in the front derailleur, inexact rear shifting and clear coat loss on carbon front derailleurs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradkay View Post
    Repeat this before and after every ride and you too will be allowed into cyclists heaven:

    "I believe in Tullio the father, Valentino the son, and the Holy Spoke."
    Amen! Amen!

    And so Ernest Colnago showered Pope Pius an arabesque fully Campy equipped road bike that sits in waiting for baptismal rides with the Pope. And then, of course, the fresh red wines to savor victory after the ride!

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    The Stringbike groupset is much better than Campy, only a matter of time before Campy falls by the way side and real snobs convert to this......

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    I mix and match Campy and Shimano on different bikes. Snobby is the wrong word IMO. Discriminating I believe is more accurate. Some if not many aren't discriminating.
    A bicycle with controls like a John Deere tractor is fine...like Shimano or Sram.

    To me, Campy has superior shifter ergonomics...on many levels. Shifting system to me for racing is better with Campy. I prefer Shimano cranksets and brakes. But lever type preordains cable pull rate and so if I want to run Campy shifters without a Shiftmate, then is has to be Campy derailleurs. On 11s Campy bikes, I generally run Shimano 11s cassettes + Shimano free hub.

    I ran DA 9000 for a season as an experiment and to me Chorus or Record is head and shoulders better including tactile shift feedback..more of a snap with Campy into gear versus a Shimano softer click.

    I never feel any snobbiness about preferring Campy any more than I feel snobby about a wheelset or a saddle or a handlebar. Yes, I feel that the public is largely ignorant about bicycles including many long time riders which they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPlKE View Post
    Campy chorus and above are so quiet and smooth through the gears... you won't be a snob... but you may be feeling pity for other less fortunate riders when you hear the deafening buzz and clatter of their shimano and sram junk as you silently pass them.
    Noise isn't part of the equation. If anything, Campy drivelines are louder than Shimano which are church quiet when set up properly down to the click to change gears...Campy shifts more of a snap many prefer for greater feedback that a shift has been effectuated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrico View Post
    Yeah, and when you stop pedaling, that solid whirr of the substantial freewheel pawls reassures the thing won't give up on ya anytime soon! Campy did that on purpose, in keeping with bikes as mechanical extensions of the body. When rider shifts, the lever talks back and say, "Ok, got it!"

    Shimano goes for a more stealthy feel. Both companies are a reflection of the cultures from which they sprang, the one inscrutable, tricky, hard to service [Shimano], the other out front, simple, easy to service [Campy].

    Custom commuter set up in '85 with Campy Record and original Super Record: the old polished steel alloy headset and bottom bracket are still in great shape after 60,000+ miles. Racers got 150,000 miles on 'em back in the day. So I'm only half way through their useful service. No cracked balls, races smooth and unblemished. I kept thinking with each maintenance session over the years, "About time to upgrade with the new!" Then the ghost of Tullio pipes in, "Not yet my friend, not yet! Ride on!"

    And don't get me started on hub bearings! Three pairs of Record hub wheels I've run since the '80s are still smooth as silk. Record back then was the overbuilt everyday riding gruppo. Super Record was lightened up with aluminum. 90% of the racers used it exclusively until Dura Ace came up to speed in the mid '80s.

    Campy engineers remain stedfast lovers of cycling. They share the spirit of heart dropping performance with Ferrari and Lamborghini. Shimano is still the fishing rod interloper out to make money, IMO. Their top of the line bikes are like Lexus. Maybe they'll figure it out eventually. Old steel Italian bikes are treasured by the Japanese, accentuated in their love of keirin, drag racing on short straight courses.
    Agree, design differences reflect cultural differences from which designs were spawned..Campy Italy, Shimano Japan, Sram USA. This pervades many products, not just bicycle groupsets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Srode View Post
    The Stringbike groupset is much better than Campy, only a matter of time before Campy falls by the way side and real snobs convert to this......

    Stringbike
    That is quite a Rube Goldberg contraption. What problem is this thing trying to solve exactly?

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