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    Anyone ever do the Shimano customized insoles? I've bought several pairs of Shimano shoes that have customisable insoles. Problem is, you need to use a special machine to heat treat them and I've never been able to find a shop that has one -- not that I'd expect a warm welcome from one that did considering I bought the shoes on-line.

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    This fellow I hike with says that these supportive insoles make your foot muscles weak, especially through the arch. Thoughts on that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mfdemicco View Post
    This fellow I hike with says that these supportive insoles make your foot muscles weak, especially through the arch. Thoughts on that?
    Ask him which doctor he heard that from. It makes no sense considering that it's your posterior tibial tendon that holds up your arch.
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    Do you have a medical condition? One leg longer than the other?

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    My feet may be weird. I've tried several brands and they are all terribly uncomfortable. The only thing that has ever worked for me is the extremely cheap Dr. Sholls foam liner, which is really no arch support at all. I've wasted a lot of money on these things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfdemicco View Post
    This fellow I hike with says that these supportive insoles make your foot muscles weak, especially through the arch. Thoughts on that?


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    It's a chicken or the egg situation. He's kind of correct. But also correct is people who wear shoes and don't spend their days chasing lions barefooted will have weak arches relative for what's needed for hard exercise they do. So for most people the choice is between arch support or pain/injury. Not a choice between arch support and strong muscles in the foot.

    If you want to google more info. you might want to look into runner information. There are runners who run bare foot for reasons you're buddy mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Strongbow View Post
    It's a chicken or the egg situation. He's kind of correct. But also correct is people who wear shoes and don't spend their days chasing lions barefooted will have weak arches relative for what's needed for hard exercise they do. So for most people the choice is between arch support or pain/injury. Not a choice between arch support and strong muscles in the foot.

    If you want to google more info. you might want to look into runner information. There are runners who run bare foot for reasons you're buddy mentioned.
    I guess that would be why people like the shoes w/ minimal support...like the Nike Free .
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    My feet shape size and biomechanics are different than yours. You don't know what mine are and I don't know what yours are.

    Not all feet need orthotics or some type of "support" device. In fact, many and perhaps most need nothing special or additional.

    Those that do need them need ones that are specifically designed for their feet or foot issue/type AND the activity that they will be used for and in what type of shoe.

    There are rigid orthotics. Semi-rigid orthotics. Flexible orthotics. Orthodics for straight line running such as conventional running and there are orthotics specifically for multidirectional activities such as tennis or basketball.

    If you don't have a problem you probably don't need anything. If you do the only solution other than lucking out is to go to a sports podiatrist and have your feet evaluated along with your input to get what you need. That's the lock stock and barrel.

    If you self-diagnose, listen to others non-detailed relevant experiences and testimonials or their condemnation of some product on their feet and experiences of which you have no relevant knowledge about and then try what they succeeded or failed with you really haven't learned anything to help you in most cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    I guess that would be why people like the shoes w/ minimal support...like the Nike Free .
    yes, exactly the idea behind shoes like those.

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    I also worked with Bill Peterson to have orthotics made. If you are close to MA. try Sara Bresnick, she is a cycling coach, PT and also makes fantastic cycling and everyday orthotics. http://www.pedalpowercoaching.com

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    I'm curious for those that say they make the shoe too tight: did you take out the insole that came with it first? Cycling specific insoles are too be used as a replacement. Also as said already; to align the knees to reduce injury, and to improve power transfer since the knees aren't going side to side.
    That being said, a good fitter will let you know if your knees don't track straight or not.
    Next time you are on a big group ride, watch other's knees. Some might make you almost laugh. They're probably getting a lot of knee pain though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peanya View Post
    I'm curious for those that say they make the shoe too tight: did you take out the insole that came with it first? Cycling specific insoles are too be used as a replacement. Also as said already; to align the knees to reduce injury, and to improve power transfer since the knees aren't going side to side.
    That being said, a good fitter will let you know if your knees don't track straight or not.
    Next time you are on a big group ride, watch other's knees. Some might make you almost laugh. They're probably getting a lot of knee pain though.
    I think trying to align your knees to track straight is bunk. My fitter tried cleat shims and a pedal extender to get my knees to track straight. The result was knee pain and I removed that stuff pronto.

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    Update: I did get a pair of Superfeet green insoles and went for 35 mile ride yesterday. It made my feet bottom where I previously had the numbness, feel little better. It wasn't a night & day difference but it was different. I may need more riding to see how it helps or not. I only paid 70% of MSRP so if it's not a big help, it's no big loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfdemicco View Post
    I think trying to align your knees to track straight is bunk. My fitter tried cleat shims and a pedal extender to get my knees to track straight. The result was knee pain and I removed that stuff pronto.
    Be careful. I used to get knee pain from wobbly knees before aligning cleats with no float, to keep my knees from flexing. Keeping the knees tracking straight, more or less, has been the key to rehabbing injuries gotten from weight lifting and running, and strengthening the cartilage around the knees. If I allowed wobble, it overstressed the connective tissue and the knees hurt. I still have some "natural" wobble, seen clearly on buff marks on the frame-fit pump under the top tube. Cleats with no float minimize the wobble, and the knees don't hurt.

    Just sayin. You may not even need the inserts or pedal extender the fitter gave you. It could just be weakness that will go away as the knees become fitter for the action.

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