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    insoles and shims

    I haven't been riding much lately and Im doing short rides now, about 20 or 25 miles. When I get back Im having knee pain. Mostly my left knee, but sometimes both. I have had several fits, but I can say none of them fixed my issues. I'm using giro insoles now and I have tried the Specialized, but Im still having the same problem. I think the Giro insoles are more comfortable, but Im thinking about getting some that are heat molded.

    I did take all the shims out of the shoes and I was ok for about a month. but the pain came back the last few weeks. I had two of the yellow wedges under my cleats yesterday, but today I have pain in my left knee again, none in the right. I took one wedge out of the left shoe and left the one in. I'll see how that works tomorrow. So Ill have two wedges under my right shoe where I didn't have any pain and the single wedge in the left, but Im still thinking about the molded insoles.

    Thanks for any replies.

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    Try flat pedals and 2FOs


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    There are many different knee pains. You need to be more specific on where, what kind of pain (sharp in small spot or just soreness in general area), when it starts, how long it stays & ...etc.

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    Sharp pain right on the knee cap.

    I had the pain yesterday, but gone today. Or almost gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George M View Post
    Sharp pain right on the knee cap.

    I had the pain yesterday, but gone today. Or almost gone.
    The top of knee cap itself can't have pain. It's got to be either the underside of knee cap, just below knee cap, just above knee cap or on either side. Pain is either tendon pain or bone on bone contact pain. You may want to google search it first. https://patient.info/health/knee-pai...lofemoral-pain

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvber View Post
    The top of knee cap itself can't have pain. It's got to be either the underside of knee cap, just below knee cap, just above knee cap or on either side. Pain is either tendon pain or bone on bone contact pain. You may want to google search it first. https://patient.info/health/knee-pai...lofemoral-pain
    Good article, I haven’t read all of yet, but I will. Thanks

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    I read the rest of the article and it looks like I have a good chance of not riding anymore.

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    slide your cleats as far rearward as they'll go on the shoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George M View Post
    I read the rest of the article and it looks like I have a good chance of not riding anymore.
    See what the doctor will say about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George M View Post
    I read the rest of the article and it looks like I have a good chance of not riding anymore.
    I strongly suggest you go see a physiatrist a.k.a. sports medicine doctor before you come to a conclusion by reading stuff and taking advice from strangers on the internet.

    I was having knee pains a few years ago and it turned out that what I needed to do was some exercises to keep my body in balance. Remember that cycling is a repetitive motion activity that exercises one set of muscles in a two-dimensional plane at the expense of opposing muscle sets.

    It could be something serious, but it may not be. You won't know until you have a specialist look at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    I strongly suggest you go see a physiatrist a.k.a. sports medicine doctor before you come to a conclusion by reading stuff and taking advice from strangers on the internet.

    I was having knee pains a few years ago and it turned out that what I needed to do was some exercises to keep my body in balance. Remember that cycling is a repetitive motion activity that exercises one set of muscles in a two-dimensional plane at the expense of opposing muscle sets.

    It could be something serious, but it may not be. You won't know until you have a specialist look at it.
    What he said.

    More than likely your issue is lack of flexibility and core strength. Tight hip flexors, IT bands, etc and cause knee and foot pain through overcompensation.

    I'm no doc but stretching and gym workouts has helped me quite a bit.

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    Thanks for the replies everybody. I did get my knees X-rayed last week and the doctor said they were ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George M View Post
    Thanks for the replies everybody. I did get my knees X-rayed last week and the doctor said they were ok.
    OK meaning you have no injury? Who did the x-ray? If you have pain in knees, I still recommend you visit a sports med doc and go for PT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by George M View Post
    Thanks for the replies everybody. I did get my knees X-rayed last week and the doctor said they were ok.
    I get knee pain from a back issue. First back acts up, then my hamstrings tighten, then one or the other of my knees will start to hurt. Used to be I did not notice the connection, or even the back "pain" (which is often slight for me) or ham tightness early on. Just that my knees hurt. Now that I know the connection, I can head things off at the pass... most times.

    So do consider the advice to see a doctor who knows about cyclists, or at least work on core strength and flexibility to see if that helps. If it doesn't help, well, I think many if not most people could benefit from more core and flexibility attention just for general life quality.

    I also get knee pain from knee issues, but that's a different thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    OK meaning you have no injury? Who did the x-ray? If you have pain in knees, I still recommend you visit a sports med doc and go for PT.
    My wife had a few operations in the past couple of months and I haven't rode the bike in 3 weeks and before that another 2 times last month. So I think I was over doing it , even at 20 miles. I think I do need to do some PT, before going to another fit at this point.

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