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    mechanical f-up of the year/day/century/millenium/universe

    A few years ago, I picked up a really nice mid 80's paramount (lugged columbus slx painted white with world champ lugs) for $200 from my good friend and (at the time) fellow shop monkey. He had converted it to a fixie and it had sat in his basement so he was willing to get rid of it. I snatched it up and a pair of single speed wheels built with a pair of wonderful 91 dura ace hubs with a freewheel rear that ran great....which I loved and rode and rode and rode; until the campy ypsilon (sp?) began have some sort of problem keeping the spokes attached to itself.

    So I called my LBS and former employer and ordered up some open pros and some nice dt spokes....and waited....and waited.... I finally got the call...it was in....I packed up my wheels and ran out the door to begin building the wheels asap...

    Here is where the HUGE F-UP happens...

    I stood there getting ready to begin building the wheels with all the parts neatly spread out on the work bench and I began snipping the spokes of the rear wheel....snip....snip....snip...oops.

    I look down to realize I am holding my beloved hubs, with the bmx freewheel still attached.....OH man am I fu@#ed! So now here I am, unable to build the wheels, trying to figure out what the hell to do to get the freewheel off without damaging the hub. I tried lacing up as many spokes as possible to create enough resistance so I could pop it off the normal way...but that didn't work.

    HEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLP! (please)
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    You have to re-build it into a wheel, then start over.

    Been there, done that. Doh is me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olr1
    You have to re-build it into a wheel, then start over.

    Been there, done that. Doh is me.
    And since you have done that before, do you have any suggestions about getting the spokes through on the drive side? Or is just a matter of sacrificing my knuckles and some spokes to get the job done?
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    Use cheapo spokes, bend them through using a pair of pliers or something similar. It doesn't matter as long as you can get them through; you don't even have to lace them alternately; just get them through the holes and fix them to a rim.

    You might even be able to do it with strong wire; lacing it through a rim then a hub hole, then back out to a rim. This is not something I have attempted, but when I was cursing and swearing and struggling, it crossed my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olr1
    Use cheapo spokes, bend them through using a pair of pliers or something similar. It doesn't matter as long as you can get them through; you don't even have to lace them alternately; just get them through the holes and fix them to a rim.

    You might even be able to do it with strong wire; lacing it through a rim then a hub hole, then back out to a rim. This is not something I have attempted, but when I was cursing and swearing and struggling, it crossed my mind.

    awesome. Thanks.
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    there have been much worse.

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    Z Bend The Spokes

    As long as you're rebuilding a wheel, and you need to lace with a freewheel on, you should just Z Bend the spoke ends. It was the way you installed the first aero spokes back in the '80's.
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    heck yes

    Quote Originally Posted by rocco
    there have been much worse.
    I'm sure my Star Carbon fork f-up is right up there with the worst.
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    What if you took a Craftsman strap wrench, and wraped that arround the hub?
    Do ya think you'd have the leverage to get it then? (get the big red one, no the blue)
    It's all rubber and plastic, so it won't scrach your finish....

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    Parks Axle Vise?

    I had to use one to loosen the lock nut on my Bontregar free hub before servicing. I was shocked at how much vise pressure I had to use to stop the axle from turning before the nut broke loose. Mine was $20 at the LBS. I did not have much axle to clamp on, but it worked.

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