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    Mr. President, you are riding in your red zone

    Check it out, President Bush kicks a$$ on a MTB. Pushing 168 Heart beats per minute. Not bad for a man half his age. He is not afraid of riding on the edge and and falling! My kind of rider.

    Once I had my a** handed to me on very technical Eastern Singletrack by a 72 year old Litespeed rider. This guy flew gracefully down 200 yard nearly vertical descent with switchbacks that ended in a creek. Humbling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slip Stream
    Check it out, President Bush kicks a$$ on a MTB. Pushing 168 Heart beats per minute. Not bad for a man half his age. He is not afraid of riding on the edge and and falling! My kind of rider.

    Once I had my a** handed to me on very technical Eastern Singletrack by a 72 year old Litespeed rider. This guy flew gracefully down 200 yard nearly vertical descent with switchbacks that ended in a creek. Humbling.
    Hmm, the article says 168 is 4 times his resting heart rate. That would make his resting heart rate 42 BPM. That's pretty impressive. Although I'm inclined to think that 4 times figure might have been rounded up a bit.

    I wonder what Kerry's stats are.

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    Shall I vote for the candidate with the lowest resting heart rate and largest stroke volume?

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    Quote Originally Posted by likeguymontag
    Shall I vote for the candidate with the lowest resting heart rate and largest stroke volume?
    Makes as much sense as "Vote for Kerry because he's a cyclist." Props to both of 'em for getting out there, but, geez, W - mountain biking can be painful. I added that to my road biking about 6 months ago, and it's a tough sport in more ways than one.
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    Talking There is the other end of the spectrum?

    CHENEY. Wonder what his resting HR is??? Probably get another heart attack if he finds out!




    Quote Originally Posted by Spyky
    Hmm, the article says 168 is 4 times his resting heart rate. That would make his resting heart rate 42 BPM. That's pretty impressive. Although I'm inclined to think that 4 times figure might have been rounded up a bit.

    I wonder what Kerry's stats are.

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    maybe we should vote based on who rides the better bike? Bush rides a trek and Kerry has a gaggle of serottas....hmmmm....I like Kerry more and more everyday

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    Mouthguard

    He wear's a mouthguard when he rides ... 'nough said.
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    Bush's resting heart rate

    Quote Originally Posted by Spyky
    Hmm, the article says 168 is 4 times his resting heart rate. That would make his resting heart rate 42 BPM. That's pretty impressive. Although I'm inclined to think that 4 times figure might have been rounded up a bit.

    I wonder what Kerry's stats are.

    -Spyky
    When W had his pretzel-induced, football-watching couch accident, I recall that there were articles that said that his resting heart rate was in the low 40s. Last year, I had lunch with someone who was a former elite running coach and who had watched W's running stats closely. He said that the only way that W could be in the excellent shape that he then was in was by running an hour to two hours per day. Ronald Reagan may have slept through his presidency. It looks like W is spending a lot of time working out during his. That's not a bad thing, however. I don't like W's politics. But, given the lack of activity (and obesity) among Americans of all ages, W is a good role model for all of the couch potatoes out there. We would spend a lot less money on health care in the US, a major economic issue, if more people followed W's example rather than following their natural desire to be sedentary.
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    No - based on riding a Road or Mt. Bike

    Me,
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    Quote Originally Posted by likeguymontag
    Shall I vote for the candidate with the lowest resting heart rate and largest stroke volume?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkS
    When W had his pretzel-induced, football-watching couch accident, I recall that there were articles that said that his resting heart rate was in the low 40s. Last year, I had lunch with someone who was a former elite running coach and who had watched W's running stats closely. He said that the only way that W could be in the excellent shape that he then was in was by running an hour to two hours per day. Ronald Reagan may have slept through his presidency. It looks like W is spending a lot of time working out during his. That's not a bad thing, however. I don't like W's politics. But, given the lack of activity (and obesity) among Americans of all ages, W is a good role model for all of the couch potatoes out there. We would spend a lot less money on health care in the US, a major economic issue, if more people followed W's example rather than following their natural desire to be sedentary.
    Hmm, that resting heart rate still seems surprisingly low. Certainly I agree that Bush is in pretty good shape for someone his age, but 42 is remarkably low. But resting heart rate does go down with age, and is also affected by genetics, so it's not completely unbelievable, just surprising.

    I agree that it's not a bad thing having a president who thinks exercise is important. But he doesn't seem to be making much of an issue about improving the health of americans, promoting better exercise programs as part of health initiatives, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyky
    Hmm, that resting heart rate still seems surprisingly low. Certainly I agree that Bush is in pretty good shape for someone his age, but 42 is remarkably low. But resting heart rate does go down with age, and is also affected by genetics, so it's not completely unbelievable, just surprising.

    I agree that it's not a bad thing having a president who thinks exercise is important. But he doesn't seem to be making much of an issue about improving the health of americans, promoting better exercise programs as part of health initiatives, etc...

    -Spyky
    Remember, this guy was running sub-6:30 miles in the 10K about three years ago. You don't just wake up one morning and run that pace. He was a guy with a job (Owner of Texas Rangers, then Governor of Texas) that gave him some time to train. Like a regular guy, he took advantage of that. Wouldn't you have done the same?

    BTW, my resting HR is 42.

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    hate to say it, but...

    80+ minutes is also a long time to only be covering 18 miles, especially in the forboding mountains of Crawford Texas. I do a fire road/single track combo ride that covers almost 30 miles with 2600ft of elevation in about the same time. He can't be pushing it that hard...

    Still, props to the guy for getting on a bike. 85% of our brain dead, cattle grazing population could take a lesson or two from him. I don't like the guy's politics either, but at least he knows how to enjoy life.

    Nice of them to say that crashing is a normal occurence for MTB'ers. Yeah, maybe if you can't ride...

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    I'm impressed with the 42 resting HR, especially for his age. I'm 25 and my all time low was 36 bpm.

    I wish more people in the country would try to "follow the leader" and get bikes and go hammer, rather than get fat.

    If he needs a secret service guy to ride with him all day, I'm game. I'm an avid shooter as well, so he'd be well-guarded......

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    The Ultimate Fred?

    Quote Originally Posted by denversean
    80+ minutes is also a long time to only be covering 18 miles, especially in the forboding mountains of Crawford Texas. I do a fire road/single track combo ride that covers almost 30 miles with 2600ft of elevation in about the same time. He can't be pushing it that hard...

    Still, props to the guy for getting on a bike. 85% of our brain dead, cattle grazing population could take a lesson or two from him. I don't like the guy's politics either, but at least he knows how to enjoy life.

    Nice of them to say that crashing is a normal occurence for MTB'ers. Yeah, maybe if you can't ride...
    Hmmm. Mouth guard, toe straps and sneakers, and it doesn't look like he's even wearing riding shorts. All of this on a $3000+ bike. Looks like major fredness to me!

    Seriously though, he's doing OK. 18 miles in 80 minutes is 13.5 mph, which is not bad at all depending on the terrain. Most of the trails that I ride I'm somewhere in the 10-12 mph range. I am not a GW fan either, but I say "more power to him".

    BTW, 30 miles in 80 minutes is 22.5 mph. Hmmm, 2600ft of climbing too. I think you could give Lance a run for his money with those numbers.

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    Riding in a different red zone

    "The frame is adorned with high-tech components that Bush professes to know little about..."

    hmmm..... a shock absorber vs. Middle East politics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by denversean
    80+ minutes is also a long time to only be covering 18 miles, especially in the forboding mountains of Crawford Texas. I do a fire road/single track combo ride that covers almost 30 miles with 2600ft of elevation in about the same time. He can't be pushing it that hard...
    Someone has been spending too much time in the crack house.

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    Note the guy who said he could do 2600 feet in 30 miles of single track in less than 80 minutes, didn't say which way he was going. I know I can do it if it is downhill.

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    Wow lots of e-thugs in here.

    I could do this better, I could do that better and my dad can kick your dad's ass. Oooook.

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    Actually that's the correct total climb for the trail and it's 27.4 miles to be exact - I ride with a group and we always finish in less than 90 min...

    I've ridden sport class, but I am millions of miles from pro. My point is they make it sound like the guy is blazing trails in flatsville USA. With the Terrain in Texas he should be avg. 18 miles an hour...

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    Good for him - good for us?

    I applaud the pres for taking up riding. Hopefully it will raise his awareness of the environment. Too bad he embarrassed Christie Whitman inbto leaving,. She used to ride some. They could have discussed policy on their breaks.

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    They could have discussed policy on their breaks.
    ... or how best to schedule even more vacation in future...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10kman
    I'm impressed with the 42 resting HR, especially for his age. I'm 25 and my all time low was 36 bpm.

    I wish more people in the country would try to "follow the leader" and get bikes and go hammer, rather than get fat.

    If he needs a secret service guy to ride with him all day, I'm game. I'm an avid shooter as well, so he'd be well-guarded......

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    Not to take this thread on a tangent, but what is your average HR when say, sitting on a chair in front of a computer (like right now), just out of curiosity, and how much does this relate to resting heart rate.

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    Usually like at my desk at work or something, I can catch it around 50, plus or minus a couple. Not sure how it relates to my resting HR, some people could have a higher "normal activity" HR, but a low resting, etc.

    I used to run competitively, long distances, hence my heart rate.... Now I ride a ton, HR is about the same I'd say, I haven't tried to get my resting in a while. I should sleep with my HRM on, that'd be interesting to see the nightly range.....

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    I'm curious about that too...

    My resting HR in the morning is 50-52 bpm. I've worn my hrm to work though, and coffee pushes me into the 60's. Answering the phone or writing emails can put me in the 70's. I'm sure the activity itself isn't that strenuous, so I'm assuming mental stress. I'm betting that normal hr can be greatly affected by stress levels, noise, etc. without any real physical activity involved.

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    You are correct denver, foods greatly alter your HR. I have a habbit of always having chocolate chip cookies on the day I have to visit a doctor, and my HR is usually up due to sugar, etc.

    Stress is another issue. All jobs cause some form of "stress", so your HR will be up from that. Stress can be getting up in the morning to your heart, hence why it beats a bit more.

    Coffee is an instant "BOO YA" to your heart.......

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