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    Penile numbness and soft tissue pressure are NOT okay

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    “If you’re a rider and you’re getting numbness in your penis, switch saddles or get a bike fit and make those symptoms go away.”

    In his time in the saddle game, Dr Minkow has come across many men who have chosen to ignore numbness or pain — something he views as a big mistake.


    “Cyclists dismiss these kind of symptoms and go ‘Ah it’s just part of riding. It’s no big deal.’ And they basically tend to deny that there’s a problem,” he said. “And of course many of them do not go on to have erectile dysfunction. But what this study is starting to show is that cyclists should not deny all the symptoms. There are some that have to be taken seriously.


    “If you have certain areas of numbness, pay attention. Pay attention and be careful and do something about it. Change something, get [a bike] fit, change your saddle, change your riding style, but don’t let certain symptoms go.”


    If you’re riding a traditional saddle, switching to a saddle with a cut-out and/or stub nose is perhaps the most significant change you can make. This will ensure that your sitbones are taking the bulk of the compression forces, rather than the soft tissue in between.
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    My suspicion is that penile numbness is directly related to the use of disc brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azpeterb View Post
    My suspicion is that penile numbness is directly related to the use of disc brakes.
    Dic breaks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by azpeterb View Post
    My suspicion is that penile numbness is directly related to the use of disc brakes.
    disc brakes on e-bikes.
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    Too many people ignore the wrong kinds of discomfort. The damage is cumulative.

    Get off your junk.
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    “If you’re a rider and you’re getting numbness in your penis, switch saddles or get a bike fit and make those symptoms go away.”

    The dispensing of common sense is profound.

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    I've not had any numbness issues since i switched to a seat with a wide center slot.

    I was originally on the Selle Italia SLR Gel Flow. It solved the numbness problem, but it was a little too narrow.

    I'm now on the Shimano Pro Stealth. Been on it on the trainer all winter, and now have on my winter bike.

    It's absolutely perfect (for me)!

    Last edited by Migen21; 12-03-2017 at 09:37 PM.

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    Just changed to a Pro saddle, night and day difference

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    Nose looks wide on that thing.
    Wtw, do you know how wide that saddle is in the back?


    Quote Originally Posted by Migen21 View Post
    I've not had any numbness issues since i switched to a seat with a wide center slot.

    I was originally on the Selle Italia SLR Gel Flow. It solved the numbness problem, but it was a little too narrow.

    I'm now on the Shimano Pro Stealth. Been on it on the trainer all winter, and now have on my winter bike.

    It's absolutely perfect (for me)!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Migen21 View Post
    I've not had any numbness issues since i switched to a seat with a wide center slot.

    I was originally on the Selle Italia SLR Gel Flow. It solved the numbness problem, but it was a little too narrow.

    I'm now on the Shimano Pro Stealth. Been on it on the trainer all winter, and now have on my winter bike.

    It's absolutely perfect (for me)!

    The wide nose looks like it would make you ride bowlegged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Migen21 View Post
    I've not had any numbness issues since i switched to a seat with a wide center slot.

    I was originally on the Selle Italia SLR Gel Flow. It solved the numbness problem, but it was a little too narrow.

    I'm now on the Shimano Pro Stealth. Been on it on the trainer all winter, and now have on my winter bike.

    It's absolutely perfect (for me)!

    I am planning to move to either this or the Specialized Power.

    Penile numbness and soft tissue pressure are NOT okay-power-saddle-3.jpg

    The doctor mentioned above helped design the Specialized saddle:

    https://cyclingtips.com/2015/03/spec...saddle-review/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPlKE View Post
    The wide nose looks like it would make you ride bowlegged.
    The pictured saddle is a "snub nose" saddle where the tip of the nose is missing.

    It's shorter than normal and the nose is wider than normal and designed to be used.

    I know it sounds hard to imagine, but the front of this saddle is actually supposed to be sat on, and it's actually comfortable to do so.

    The back comes in 142 and 152 widths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashadabd View Post
    I am planning to move to either this or the Specialized Power.

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    The doctor mentioned above helped design the Specialized saddle:

    https://cyclingtips.com/2015/03/spec...saddle-review/
    I tried this but found that it had more of a curve (arch? i.e the wings drop down more than the others) than the Selle Italia SLR Gel Flow or the PRO Stealth. I had some soreness in the thigh crease as a result.

    Of course as with all things fit related, YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Migen21 View Post
    I tried this but found that it had more of a curve (arch? i.e the wings drop down more than the others) than the Selle Italia SLR Gel Flow or the PRO Stealth. I had some soreness in the thigh crease as a result.

    Of course as with all things fit related, YMMV.
    Good to know though, thank you for the insight. I haven't tried either yet, but plan to soon.
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    Is there a saddle out there that has these qualities:

    1. a very narrow nose
    2. a dramatic transition between the nose and the part where you actually sits on, i.e., this part is where your thighs would come down.

    So far, the seat that I've found close to having the above characteristics is the Selle Italia SLR/SLS monolink version. Their traditional "rails" version (where there are 2 rails) is not as good for me since my thighs still rub against the rails too.

    anyone additinal options out there for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aclinjury View Post
    Is there a saddle out there that has these qualities:

    1. a very narrow nose
    2. a dramatic transition between the nose and the part where you actually sits on, i.e., this part is where your thighs would come down.

    So far, the seat that I've found close to having the above characteristics is the Selle Italia SLR/SLS monolink version. Their traditional "rails" version (where there are 2 rails) is not as good for me since my thighs still rub against the rails too.

    anyone additinal options out there for me?
    I've heard good things about the Romin, but I haven't really tried one.

    https://www.specialized.com/us/en/ro...=220277-130722
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMsRepBike View Post
    “If you’re a rider and you’re getting numbness in your penis, switch saddles or get a bike fit and make those symptoms go away.”

    In his time in the saddle game, Dr Minkow has come across many men who have chosen to ignore numbness or pain — something he views as a big mistake.


    “Cyclists dismiss these kind of symptoms and go ‘Ah it’s just part of riding. It’s no big deal.’ And they basically tend to deny that there’s a problem,” he said. “And of course many of them do not go on to have erectile dysfunction. But what this study is starting to show is that cyclists should not deny all the symptoms. There are some that have to be taken seriously.


    “If you have certain areas of numbness, pay attention. Pay attention and be careful and do something about it. Change something, get [a bike] fit, change your saddle, change your riding style, but don’t let certain symptoms go.”


    If you’re riding a traditional saddle, switching to a saddle with a cut-out and/or stub nose is perhaps the most significant change you can make. This will ensure that your sitbones are taking the bulk of the compression forces, rather than the soft tissue in between.
    This is no news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontact View Post
    Too many people ignore the wrong kinds of discomfort. The damage is cumulative.

    Get off your junk.
    do you guys make seats with monorail mounting instead of the traditional 2-rail mount?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashadabd View Post
    I've heard good things about the Romin, but I haven't really tried one.

    https://www.specialized.com/us/en/ro...=220277-130722
    Wow $200 is expensive for a seat. But my hesitation is that they use the traditional 2-rail mount. My thighs rub against such mounting system. I prefer seats using the Monorail system, but unfortunately Monorail is proprietary to Selle Italia so there are only a few brands that use this

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    Quote Originally Posted by aclinjury View Post
    Wow $200 is expensive for a seat. But my hesitation is that they use the traditional 2-rail mount. My thighs rub against such mounting system. I prefer seats using the Monorail system, but unfortunately Monorail is proprietary to Selle Italia so there are only a few brands that use this
    Most Specialized shops offer a fit test for Specialized saddles so that you can try it out before making up your mind. There's actually a whole fit process for their saddles. There are definitely cheaper versions of the Romin as well:

    https://www.specialized.com/us/en/ro...=220152-130126
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    I switched to the Terry Men’s FLX a few years back. The cut out in the middle helps but I think the key its ability to flex a lot between the right and left sides in the rear.

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    Here's a couple of reviews for the Pro Stealth:

    Pro Stealth saddle review - Cycling Weekly

    https://cyclingtips.com/2017/10/spec...arison-review/ (comparison test)
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    Quote Originally Posted by aclinjury View Post
    do you guys make seats with monorail mounting instead of the traditional 2-rail mount?
    We offer only traditional rails, and they work very well despite having a very narrow nose and abrupt transition to the back of the saddle. Probably because the rails don't continue at full width under much of the nose. I also have meaty thighs and the rails aren't an issue.

    As far as I know, only Selle Italia is doing Monolink. Even if other's are, I don't think it is ever going to catch on as a standard.
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