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    That makes solid sense. In fact... last year on a long FS road (mtn bikes) climb, my friend - about 15 yards back - yelled up "Hey, want me to pick up your Garmin?" Yep, had popped and dropped, and I was oblivious. So, maybe I should rethink that tether thing ;-)

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    Any chance a Mod can rename this thread Wahoo ELEMNT + BOLT ?

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    I thought about this as well, but technically the Bolt is still an ELEMNT - it's just got the word "Bolt" appended to it... might have warranted it's own thread though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Migen21 View Post
    Oh cool, another improvement for the Bolt over the standard ELEMNT is the addition of a Tether - This is something I missed on my original ELEMNT

    The tether would be for people like me that would use a third party mount. If you use the provided mount, that's what the little silver screw is on the underside. It screws the unit into the mount.

    And as they've mentioned, that legally makes the computer part of the bike, seeing how it's then screwed down. It can add weight for teams and situations where it's needed instead of having to glue on or install weights to the bottom bracket.

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    I won't use the screw even on the standard mount.

    Too much hassle to swap between bikes and put on the charger.

    The tether is quick and easy.





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    Interestingly it seems as though Wahoo has a third Elemnt head unit in the works. As seen in the comment section of a video above, Bike24 was having a presale for a new Elemnt Mini for 100 euro, complete with picture and all. Release date of mide April maybe. Apparently they deleted the presale today, not sure how long it was going for. Looking at the picture, it's quite clear that it's not the original nor the bolt but a different unit altogether.

    So maybe the original Elemnt will be discontinued seeing how the bolt is essentially the same hardware. And then maybe the mini will come in as a cheap option, one they'll support properly unlike the Rflkt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMsRepBike View Post
    Interestingly it seems as though Wahoo has a third Elemnt head unit in the works. As seen in the comment section of a video above, Bike24 was having a presale for a new Elemnt Mini for 100 euro, complete with picture and all. Release date of mide April maybe. Apparently they deleted the presale today, not sure how long it was going for. Looking at the picture, it's quite clear that it's not the original nor the bolt but a different unit altogether.

    So maybe the original Elemnt will be discontinued seeing how the bolt is essentially the same hardware. And then maybe the mini will come in as a cheap option, one they'll support properly unlike the Rflkt.
    Knew that was coming. It makes zero sense from their perspective to offer both the Bolt and original Elemnt. Why spend money to manufacturer two casings that do the exact same thing? They probably recognized one of the biggest gripes with the original couldn't be remedied in the old housing (near silent notification tones)...so just start over. Once they have a non-mapping option in the $150 range, they will truly be a garmin killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cartoscro View Post
    Once they have a non-mapping option in the $150 range, they will truly be a garmin killer.
    Nah, it will just force a change in Garmin's pricing and or innovation plans - competition is a good thing for the consumer!
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    I'll just leave this here.

    https://fccid.io/document.php?id=3205493

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    I took my Bolt out for it's maiden voyage yesterday - a 60 mile out and back over a paved rail trail - some of through heavily wooded areas.

    I had the phone connected the entire time, but not use a 'route' or any nav features - and did not have the LED's configured. I had the backlight set to '5 seconds (timeout).

    The total elapsed time was just over 4 hours and the battery was at 70% at the end of the ride.

    TLDR; the thing is awesome in every way - I couldn't be happier with it.

    Some differences between it and the original Elemnt that haven't been mentioned (much).

    The sounds - BEEPS are *MUCH* louder - easily heard even when riding at speed.
    The buttons - very tactile feel - easy to press - good feedback, even with gloves on - they are a tad smaller than the original, but overall they are a big improvement.
    Weight - I'm far from a weight weenie, but this thing has a much lighter feel to it than the original Element.
    Mount - Not only lighter and more aero than the original, the unit 'snaps' in far more positively - it feels very secure when clicked in (I did not use the screw, and my tether has not arrived yet.
    Sensors - Everything paired up just fine - no issues there at all (not really a huge surprise - the original Elemnt has had flawless sensor performance since last fall.
    Display - Really good - I loved the display on my original Elemnt, and the Bolt is just as good.


    My only minor nit is that the offset of the mount is slightly too small to center the unit in front of the stem on my BMC Road Machine - the face plate/clamping mechanism on the front of this stem is a little wider than most stems. The result is the Bolt is about 2mm off center to the left when looking straight down at it. It doesn't have any functional effect, but aesthetically it's a minor annoyance.

    If anyone has any specific questions, let me know.

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    Something I noticed on the Bolt that hasn't been mentioned. The charging port is on the bottom edge, which will likely be too close to the stem to charge on-the-go. I guess you could mount it upside down while charging, but that would be a pain. Another plus for the original Elemnt, where the charging port is on the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cartoscro View Post
    Something I noticed on the Bolt that hasn't been mentioned. The charging port is on the bottom edge, which will likely be too close to the stem to charge on-the-go. I guess you could mount it upside down while charging, but that would be a pain. Another plus for the original Elemnt, where the charging port is on the back.
    Actually, that location is better for charging while riding. 90 degree USB cables plugged into a port parallel to the ground stay put, while those perpendicular to the ground can fall out under their own weight.

    I have a Garmin Edge 800 on a K-Edge XL I use with a stem mounted Busch & Müller USB Werk power supply with a right angle USB cable. It works great for 20 hour rides.

    Whether that works with the standard "aero" BOLT mount is a separate issue.

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    I agree, I actually prefer to use 90 degree cables for stuff like this - this way there isn't a long tail sticking out - less likely to get hit and break/bend something.

    I use one like this, but you can get these types of cables in left, right, up, or down angles, in whatever length you need, and whatever type of connector you need on the other end.


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    I did my first ride today with the ELEMNT BOLT. I'm very happy with it. I had been using a Garmin Edge 510 for a couple years now, and so this is a welcome change of pace. It was so satisfying deleting garmin connect and formatting the 510, going to be selling it. I got tired of the garmin software more than anything, the 510 would freeze up from time to time, and worst off there had been a couple times for no reason it would go corrupt and i'd lose my profile/settings.

    The Wahoo app is refreshing, modern, and well set up. So easy to use, setup, and it's fast. Tie that in with the Bolt and i'm a happy camper. One of the great things about the Wahoo/Bolt is that it just syncs to the phone automatically. You don't have to touch your phone to make sure it's connected with it (like i had to do with the garmin to ensure it was connected (a dumb permissions thing to connect, every.single.time.) and would sync my ride to strava when finished). You just turn it on, start your ride, and finish your ride. The Bolt's screen is easier to see/read in bright sunlight compared to the garmin as well, and I love the sound effects with it.

    Overall, this is a winner, and i'm happy to have left the garmin camp.

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    Minor software Elemnt software update today.

    https://support.wahoofitness.com/hc/...ftware-Updates

    3 April 2017
    ELEMNT WF42-1344
    ELEMNT BOLT WB09-1344


    • Fix incorrect elevation data after mid workout shutdown and recovery
    • Improve some button labels to fit better for various languages
    • Base the LEDs and power zone calculations on the 3-second average power, not instantaneous power
    • Update some compliance informationImprove some translations
    • Reset to OUTDOOR mode on startup. Lots of reports of people accidentally riding in INDOOR mode and not having GPS
    • Fix issue where call/SMS/email notifications were hidden behind the workout paused notification

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    Here's a question for those that have gone form Garmin to Wahoo.... the Element and Element Bolt should pick up and recognize all of the Garmin ant+ sensors, correct? or do I need to buy all new sensors in addition?
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    My Elemnt paired with my Garmin speed sensor faster than my old Garmin did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TricrossRich View Post
    ... the Element and Element Bolt should pick up and recognize all of the Garmin ant+ sensors, correct?
    All ANT+ and (unlike Garmin) also Bluetooth Smart (Wahoo listing)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cartoscro View Post
    My Elemnt paired with my Garmin speed sensor faster than my old Garmin did.
    Quote Originally Posted by RL7836 View Post
    All ANT+ and (unlike Garmin) also Bluetooth Smart (Wahoo listing)

    Thanks guys... I figured that was the case, but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something stupid.
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    How does the reliability of the Wahoo compare with the reliability of the Garmin devices?

    I have the Edge 500, and I have the following intermittent reliability issues:
    1. Speed goes to zero in certain areas (one bridge with an uneven surface)
    2. I have to remove the HRM from the device if I'm not actually using the HRM, or else the PM won't calibrate, and sometimes won't pair.
    3. After calibrating the PM, sometimes the menus get all funky and I need to restart. Sometimes I need to restart 2x.

    I was thinking about upgrading to a 520, but I'd get the Bolt if it's more reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiCoyote View Post
    How does the reliability of the Wahoo compare with the reliability of the Garmin devices?

    I have the Edge 500, and I have the following intermittent reliability issues:
    1. Speed goes to zero in certain areas (one bridge with an uneven surface)
    2. I have to remove the HRM from the device if I'm not actually using the HRM, or else the PM won't calibrate, and sometimes won't pair.
    3. After calibrating the PM, sometimes the menus get all funky and I need to restart. Sometimes I need to restart 2x.

    I was thinking about upgrading to a 520, but I'd get the Bolt if it's more reliable.
    I'm coming from an edge 500 as well, and had the same issue you listed. Going to the Elemnt, it's almost as if I'm living in the future now. It has been very reliable, even on longer 13+ hour rides that were near impossible with the 500 (battery life began to fade especially following a breadcrumb route). The simplicity of controlling everything from your phone is WELL worth the price. Add to that the awesome routing function with Wahoo, and it's a no brainer.

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    I've had several Garmin products in the distant past, and had numerous problems with them, both of the hardware and software variety.

    I switched to the original Element within weeks of it being released. My only complaints were related to sensor dropout issues with some of the early firmwares (long since resolved). I treated myself to a Bolt when they came out and love everything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cartoscro View Post
    My Elemnt paired with my Garmin speed sensor faster than my old Garmin did.
    Ok.. here's another question for you guys. How do the Elements handle multiple bikes? I have multiple bikes, each with their own sensors. With my 510, I had multiple bike profiles with each profile set up to connect to the sensors on that bike. On my 820, Garmin uses what they call a "sensor pool" which basically means I connect all of the sensors to the unit and it automatically figures out which ones to use as I ride the bike and the sensors wake up. How does the Element and Bolt handle this? Thanks in advance.
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