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    Amazon/Jeff Bezos Wants To Do a 'Lord of the Rings' TV Series

    Well, Game of Thrones fans, you may not have to go cold turkey from your epic-fantasy addiction after the show ends after its next season, after all. Negotiations are under way with the Tolkein estate for an LotR TV show.

    And Jeff Bezos wants to be personally involved in cutting the deal. Apparently he's something of a fantasy/sci-fi uber-geek.

    'Lord of the Rings' TV Series may be in the works at Amazon

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    Bit soon.

    I'd rather see an ASOIAF style effort applied to Iain Banks Culture series.
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    It should be a Silmarillion series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SauronHimself View Post
    It should be a Silmarillion series.
    I think the rights for that are especially hard to get, for some reason that I forget.

    It's also a whole new level of 'unfilmable', if you remember reading the book.

    Of course, LOTR was considered unfilmable for a long time... 'til Peter Jackson proved otherwise.

    But The Silmarillion would be really hard. It reads more like a loose collection of myths and legends than a single, focused narrative.

    Also takes place over many thousands of years, with a zillion different characters, and literally begins with the Creation of the Universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SystemShock View Post
    I think the rights for that are especially hard to get, for some reason that I forget.
    The Tolkien family wasn’t happy with Peter Jackson’s rendition of LOTR, so they’re the roadblock for a Silmarillion adaptation.


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    But The Silmarillion would be really hard. It reads more like a loose collection of myths and legends than a single, focused narrative.
    Which would make it good for a tv series. Each season would be a different story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SauronHimself View Post
    Which would make it good for a tv series. Each season would be a different story.
    The Silmarillion is a single, 365-page book. Not sure how many seasons you could get out of it. More like just one.

    Unless you added a great deal of non-Tolkein writing/filler... which would probably suck.

    This also may've played a role in why Amazon/Bezos went after LOTR instead... it's a much longer work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SauronHimself View Post
    The Tolkien family wasn’t happy with Peter Jackson’s rendition of LOTR, so they’re the roadblock for a Silmarillion adaptation.




    Which would make it good for a tv series. Each season would be a different story.
    Political sidenote here (oh boy)...

    Quote Originally Posted by US Constitution A1S8
    "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."
    Note that limited time part...which originally meant 28 years IIRC. The point being by making it limited--it forced and allowed people to build on work and make new stuff...not allow them to forever squat old stuff and milk the proceeds from Grand-Daddy's writing--locking everyone else out in the meanwhile.

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    The Tolkien heirs are exactly the class and kind of people who are annoying and not helping in media. Their copyright will expire in literally the 22nd century, at which point--no doubt Chris Tolkien's grand kids will re-edit the books and ask for new copyright....the same way Chris Tolkien did a couple decades ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SystemShock View Post
    But The Silmarillion would be really hard. It reads more like a loose collection of myths and legends than a single, focused narrative.
    IIRC, The Silmarillion didn't have a single line of dialogue. They'd either have to write ALL of it, or have a voiceover/narration. Remember how well that worked out in the "Sgt. Pepper" movie?
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    Maybe they could turn it into a sitcom. Cuz TV never has enough sitcoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azpeterb View Post
    Maybe they could turn it into a sitcom.

    Cuz TV never has enough sitcoms.
    Roger that. Some titles:

    That Darn Morgoth
    Who Wants To Be A Silmarillionaire
    Better Call Sauron


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    Quote Originally Posted by SystemShock View Post
    Roger that. Some titles:

    That Darn Morgoth
    Who Wants To Be A Silmarillionaire
    Better Call Sauron


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    My personal favorite: "Siri, where the f!ck is Gondolin?" Also, "Creeper Living Alone in the Woods, Why Didn't She Run"?
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    Interesting. Though most of the proposed 'tales' are not backed by any significant writing by Tolkein, i.e. TV writers would be fleshing out most of these proposed stories:

    10 Possible Tolkien Tales for The Lord of the Rings TV Series

    https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com...-rings-series/

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    Quote Originally Posted by curtw View Post
    IIRC, The Silmarillion didn't have a single line of dialogue. They'd either have to write ALL of it, or have a voiceover/narration. Remember how well that worked out in the "Sgt. Pepper" movie?
    Great point.
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    It would be interesting to see what the story lines would be. They could focus on some of the other things that were going on away from the main stories in the Hobbit and LOTR but they'd have to develop some other characters.

    I can't recall how many times I've read the books.......a lot though. I hope Peter Jackson isn't involved in the tv series if if happens though. I know I'm in the minority but I didn't like the films much. Too many of the characters had no redeeming qualities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curtw View Post
    IIRC, The Silmarillion didn't have a single line of dialogue. They'd either have to write ALL of it, or have a voiceover/narration. Remember how well that worked out in the "Sgt. Pepper" movie?
    Quote Originally Posted by SystemShock View Post
    Great point.
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    It wouldn't be a concern if they did a film adaptation for The Children of Hurin. Christopher Tolkien made that into its own book, and it was pretty good.
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    I'm another who isn't a big fan of the Jackson movies, first one was fine, cutting out some fluff, fine, but the next two (and the hobbit movies) not real good.
    I don't know why they want to make a tv series, while i'm personaly not a fan of the movies, they are pretty big and well liked, job done. Don't need to do it again. Especially when there is plenty of other fodder out there.
    like there's enough rift war saga stuff for endless series
    wheel of time, 14 books (although only 1/2 of every book is of any use) gives you a few series.
    If you pushed the belgariad/mallorian up and age bracket/rating it could work well as a tv series.
    and many more... you just don't need remake something that has just been done (well-ish) recently
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    Quote Originally Posted by SauronHimself View Post
    It wouldn't be a concern if they did a film adaptation for The Children of Hurin. Christopher Tolkien made that into its own book, and it was pretty good.
    You could be right. I'm just a bit gun-shy, considering all the liberties the writers took with the added material used to pad out The Hobbit into three 3-hour films.

    A lot of it was pretty badly executed, and left a really bad taste in my mouth.

    You can sort of see similar execution problems in Game of Thrones, now that TV series is running ahead of the books. It's extremely hard for anyone to 'stand in' for the author, at least at that (lofty) level.

    If it was a series of Sharknado books being adapted to TV, then that would be different, obviously.

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    I liked the lotr movies but the hobbit movies felt a bit dragged out for the sake of making it a trilogy though I still enjoyed seeing middle earth brought to life again. I don't have very high expectations for an amazon version.

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