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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine View Post
    The number 1 problem I have that ruins everyones schedule is owners making changes mid stream

    AHA. This explains why John wants me to pick out everything for the bathroom and kitchen and be sure of it before we even get started. I'm not a fan of Pinterest, but the choices are fairly overwhelming. Suddenly makes sense why people pay for a designer!
    I'm late to the party, but...

    You have to choose a starting point. My wife and I renovated our entire house. When it came time for decor (tile, flooring, counters, cabinets, baseboards, doors, door knobs, etc., etc., etc.) we knew we wanted to keep our dining room set - it was really the only "nice" furniture we had. So, we carried around a little 2 x 8" piece of wood from the dining table (the skirt that attached underneath one of the table leaves) to all of the suppliers. From that, we selected the flooring, then the kitchen cabinets, then the kitchen counters, etc. on and on. I like to say that our entire house was decorated around a little 2 x 8" piece of wood.

    If you try to think of everything at once, it gets overwhelming. Start with a simple idea and elaborate from there. The hard part is knowing when to stop. We would stop, evaluate and simplify (if necessary) after every major decision. We ended up very happy with the final result.


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    Thanks, I'm happy with the decor the way it is, retro pink bathroom and all!

    The house is too small to do much with. We can't blow out the kitchen (8'x10') b/c it's surrounded in duct work and supporting walls.

    I'd love to keep the bathroom tile (mostly pristine around the unused tub), toilet, and kitchen cabinets, but John says it's easier to throw it all away.

    I checked new kitchen trends for 2017, seems like the new look is black and sleek We'll stick with cherry or light maple/shaker style. Dining room table is cherry wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine View Post
    I checked new kitchen trends for 2017, seems like the new look is black and sleek We'll stick with cherry or light maple/shaker style. Dining room table is cherry wood.
    On the cabinets, make sure there's no gap between the door's insert and the frame. They catch crumbs and will drive you bonkers. Make sure they're sealed up or use a little quarter round to fill the gap.

    BTW, I'd fight to keep the original bathroom tile, I love the colors in those.

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    Life is interesting sometimes. I've come to know that sometimes predictable is better than interesting.

    Anyhow, in all the years I was running work, I really only had a couple guys I wanted to kick off the job, and only ever got one contractor replaced.

    Until today.

    I have been having a hard time getting a certain thing made and delivered. I have renegotiated the time twice now, and was promised promised PROMISED!!!1!! that I'd have it Friday. Really. I mean it this time.

    Whoops.

    I was that kid in middle school, though, the one who couldn't quite get things done on time.

    So I know the drill.

    Hey, I had a really nice project. I worked on it all night. My mom seen it, you can call her. Anyways, I got up and the dog had ate it. It was really nice, you can call my mom.

    There was never any project, and this dude wasn't working on my ****.

    God damn ed subcontractors.

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    It's finally done, letting things dry and tomorrow we can clean up and put everything back in order. It is supposed to be a nice day for a bike ride though... I should have put more input into the bathroom instead of letting the wife pick everything, as I don't really love it, but I guess she's the only one that matters
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    ...I used to work for one of the aforementioned bad contractors
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_fuji View Post
    ...I used to work for one of the aforementioned bad contractors
    How did you handle it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine View Post
    How did you handle it?
    Honestly, not well. Since I lost my job, I'm actually a lot less stressed and able to relax.

    We did new builds, not renovations, but we consistently over promised and under delivered. We used the Walmart approach to our subcontractors, by swinging our nuts around and slowly taking more and more of their business, then slashing their contracts (some of them were operating at a loss on a few of our sites) and saying "you'd go out of business if it wasn't for us." The sales staff were constant yes-men, which set us up on the production end, to consistently fail, miss deadlines, and not hit the quality marks. Safety was non-existent on our sites. I myself nearly caught a circular saw to the face, a couple subs actually did lose digits, and a building inspector broke some ribs after falling into an empty basement in one of our homes.

    We exploited the Flint water crisis to build our portfolio in that region...some of our jobs were actually on the City of Flint water supply. But, we bought all of the sites for pennies on the dollar, and sold everything at full price.

    My​ W-2 had 3 different income amounts. The company was owned by tax lawyers, so they were all about wringing every last cent they could out of everything. The President traded in his prop plane for a jet, and walked away with $10,000 in his pocket due to playing the tax system.

    In college, they harped on us about how wholesome and progressive the construction industry was these days...sigh...
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    Hire a professional.... oh wai....
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    In college, they harped on us about how wholesome and progressive the construction industry was these days...sigh...

    Damn. Where did you go to college, Trump University??

    Glad you made it out alive and intact in any case! Guess there's no way to improve on all this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine View Post
    In college, they harped on us about how wholesome and progressive the construction industry was these days...sigh...

    Damn. Where did you go to college, Trump University??

    Glad you made it out alive and intact in any case! Guess there's no way to improve on all this.
    There's a degree of truth in that old saying "Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach." One of my professors was blackballed for royally mucking up a project (he built a casino in the wrong spot), another became a teacher as a necessity after a recession-related layoff. The best professors I had were adjuncts who had 9-5 jobs in the industry and taught one or two classes a week, in the evenings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_fuji View Post
    There's a degree of truth in that old saying "Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach."
    Actually, there's a third part to that saying. "and those who can't teach administrate"

    BS = bullshit
    MS = More of the Same
    Ph.D. = Piled higher and Deeper

    Ask me how I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmf View Post
    Actually, there's a third part to that saying. "and those who can't teach administrate"

    BS = bullshit
    MS = More of the Same
    Ph.D. = Piled higher and Deeper

    Ask me how I know.
    MBA = More BS analysis...
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    Didn't get much sleep last night, but I can't nap on account of the concrete contractors two doors down jackhammering like crazy.

    While taking out the compost, I looked over to the neighbors' yard, trying to see what they're getting done. Seem to be tearing up the back patio or something.

    The guy doing the jackhammering is a shirtless hunk that looks like he stepped off a firemen's calendar. No joke. Damn.

    Texted John asking him if we need any concrete work done

    EDIT: We do need to get the front steps rebuilt, but John doesn't want me to ask them for an estimate during their break.

    Oh well. Guy put his shirt back on anyway. Guess I can get some stuff done for now.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by djg21 View Post
    It's in the contractor handbook! Take deposit; start work; ask for more money for materials and supplies; do work in substandard fashion; let employees smoke crack in customer's basement; disappear before work is complete; get sued; default on law suit and allow large judgement to be entered against you; move out of state to Louisiana before judgment can be collected. That's my experience with one Ed Fogarty.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine View Post
    Thanks, I'm happy with the decor the way it is, retro pink bathroom and all!

    The house is too small to do much with. We can't blow out the kitchen (8'x10') b/c it's surrounded in duct work and supporting walls.

    I'd love to keep the bathroom tile (mostly pristine around the unused tub), toilet, and kitchen cabinets, but John says it's easier to throw it all away.

    I checked new kitchen trends for 2017, seems like the new look is black and sleek We'll stick with cherry or light maple/shaker style. Dining room table is cherry wood.
    I'd be careful about black and sleek for any kitchen you intend to use, as they tend to magnify every...little...crumb...spatter...fingerprint...e tc. (Add in "soap scum," "hairs," and this applies to bathrooms, too).

    For similar reasons, suggest folks who lack a live-in maid service skip the toe-kick lighting (aka side-lighting all the dirt on the floor).
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    Huh, never heard of toe-kick lighting. Black is right out anyway due to tiny size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine View Post
    Huh, never heard of toe-kick lighting. Black is right out anyway due to tiny size.
    I guess it's so your toes can see better.
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