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    driver bones cyclist during triathlon

    speaking of ambulance rides, you know who is going to need one? This guy... Cyclist Crashes into SUV during Triathalon - YouTube

    Clearly the drivers fault, this should be a revocation of driving privileges for two years, at minimum. Sh*t like this gets me so mad.

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    Too bad.

    The event organizers and city officials should have had a better plan in place to control traffic than a guy in a neon vest.

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    There was a full marathon here on Father's Day. A car drove onto the course and refused to stop for police. Some people are just jerks and shouldn't be allowed to drive.

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    I understand you're upset, but I wouldn't group this with all the other crazy car-bike crashes. It appeared that the driver misinterpreted the official's hand signals. I'm not excusing the driver, but he/she wasn't trying to kill anyone.

    If you're going to blame anyone, you should blame the guy in the neon vest.

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    driver bones cyclist during triathlon

    Quote Originally Posted by rkdvsm View Post
    I understand you're upset, but I wouldn't group this with all the other crazy car-bike crashes. It appeared that the driver misinterpreted the official's hand signals. I'm not excusing the driver, but he/she wasn't trying to kill anyone.

    If you're going to blame anyone, you should blame the guy in the neon vest.
    This. That traffic control guy is more to blame than the driver.
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    with 'bones' in the title, I thought the video would be different...
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    Sure looked to me like the traffic specialist was signaling "come out, come out".

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    There's a whole lot of wtf here. It does appear the neon vest guy was a little "vague" with his instructions. The driver should have been very aware of the cyclists and been more attentive to what he/she was doing. Lastly, what kind of event allows any vehicles except emergency vehicles onto or across the course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bahueh View Post
    with 'bones' in the title, I thought the video would be different...
    We had similar exectations.

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    I still remember one of our corner marshals getting into fisticuffs with a driver who tried to pull onto the course just before the full pack came sweeping around the corner--my buddy laid an nice crease in the guy's hood with his flag to get the driver's attention--and the driver hopped out and sparring ensued...

    If the driver had pulled out as he planned he likely would have t-boned the whole group...
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    There was a guy who drove through some barriers and tape. He started giving the corner marshal a really hard time. The corner marshal pulled out his real badge and wrote him a real ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doinker View Post
    We had similar exectations.
    Did he bone the cyclist on the hood of his car? Giggitty!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hicksycle View Post
    Sure looked to me like the traffic specialist was signaling "come out, come out".
    I thought that too initially, but he is signaling to the cyclist to continue. The guard should have stayed on the other side of the road. Maybe the driver was looking at the guard only and thought he was signaling them across.
    Nasty looking crash.

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    he was signaling the cyclist to go, the driver though the signal was to him .

    yes, he should have stayed on the other side of the road
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    OP here, the boning is what got you guys on this thread. I knew this.

    What? This is 100% drivers fault. Traffic dood gives one halting hand to the drive then signals the cyclists to come through. He's facing the cyclists so to the driver the hand is moving left and right. The only thing I would say is that the dood perhaps unnecessarily waved cyclists through... as if they were going to stop otherwise... unless this was done at every intersection prior to this.

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    We had a similar thing happen in the massive Tour de Tucson ride a few years ago. An elderly driver was confused by what the traffic marshall was doing, pulled in front of a pack of riders that was flying downhill, causing the pack to hit his car and severely injuring several of them (including one who has permanent and fairly significant brain damage). The lawsuits totalled in the millions and the rider with the head injury will never be the same. The driver had his driver's license revoked and was placed in a nursing home. Sad story, and so preventable if the marshall had been doing his job correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9W9W View Post
    OP here, the boning is what got you guys on this thread. I knew this.

    What? This is 100% drivers fault. Traffic dood gives one halting hand to the drive then signals the cyclists to come through. He's facing the cyclists so to the driver the hand is moving left and right. The only thing I would say is that the dood perhaps unnecessarily waved cyclists through... as if they were going to stop otherwise... unless this was done at every intersection prior to this.
    Guy should have kept one hand on the driver in full "halt" mode, while checking the course, and possibly waving the cyclist through with the other. Why's he got to wave the cyclist through anyway though, it's not like he's gonna stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    Guy should have kept one hand on the driver in full "halt" mode, while checking the course, and possibly waving the cyclist through with the other. Why's he got to wave the cyclist through anyway though, it's not like he's gonna stop.
    Precisely! The driver is hardly at fault here.
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    I can see this being misinterpreted by the driver, however, the marshal was not facing the driver and therefore that is an indication that the marshal was not signalling to the driver. IMO he should have kept out his hand towards the driver indicating to the driver to stop while he was signalling the cyclist to continue riding.

    Any idea on how the cyclist made out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    Why's he got to wave the cyclist through anyway though, it's not like he's gonna stop.
    That's a good point....this is a RACE, not a recreational fund-raiser ride. The racers are not supposed to stop at any time and the marshal's hand gestures only make things confusing for the driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azpeterb View Post
    We had a similar thing happen in the massive Tour de Tucson ride a few years ago. An elderly driver was confused by what the traffic marshall was doing, pulled in front of a pack of riders that was flying downhill, causing the pack to hit his car and severely injuring several of them (including one who has permanent and fairly significant brain damage). The lawsuits totalled in the millions and the rider with the head injury will never be the same. The driver had his driver's license revoked and was placed in a nursing home. Sad story, and so preventable if the marshall had been doing his job correctly.
    Peter, was it proven that the police woman was at fault? I remember that the gentleman blamed shubbery in the median (of which there is very little). My recollection was that the driver got out of his vehicle, surveryed the situation, got back in his vehicle and drove home and stashed his car in his garage and only presented at the police station a few days later after confering with a lawyer. I haven't heard any further details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idris icabod View Post
    Peter, was it proven that the police woman was at fault? I remember that the gentleman blamed shubbery in the median (of which there is very little). My recollection was that the driver got out of his vehicle, surveryed the situation, got back in his vehicle and drove home and stashed his car in his garage and only presented at the police station a few days later after confering with a lawyer. I haven't heard any further details.
    I'm pretty sure that they did establish that the vomunteer from the sheriff's department who was directing traffic there did goof up, and that contributed significantly to the accident. But as you stated, what happened AFTER the accident was entirely the driver's fault. I actually did follow the case closely and even attended the sentencing of the driver....for various reasons this case really hit home for me, even though I didn't know anyone involved. The driver did in fact get out of his car, survey the situation and take off before authorities arrived. It was the fleeing of the accident site, rather than the accident itself, that brought him to trial. But I really do believe the whole thing could have been prevented if the traffic marshal had done a better job.

    That was the last year I rode in El Tour, and I was one of the first riders who approached the scene after the accident. I'll never forget seeing poor Gary face down on the road, totally unconscious, and the other riders on the road screaming in pain. That could have been me so easily, if the accident took place just seconds later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idris icabod View Post
    Peter, was it proven that the police woman was at fault? I remember that the gentleman blamed shubbery in the median (of which there is very little). My recollection was that the driver got out of his vehicle, surveryed the situation, got back in his vehicle and drove home and stashed his car in his garage and only presented at the police station a few days later after confering with a lawyer. I haven't heard any further details.
    I just looked this up because I hadn't heard about it.

    Looks like the guy got paid from everyone. Not that it matters in the least, it doesn't begin to repay what happened to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlakeG View Post
    I just looked this up because I hadn't heard about it.

    Looks like the guy got paid from everyone. Not that it matters in the least, it doesn't begin to repay what happened to him.
    Thanks Peter and Blake. I hadn't heard anything further since the brief pieces on the local news at the time. Seems like a perfect storm of unfortunate cock ups that led to the incident at the El Tour. I agree with Peter, I've ridden the Tour twice and seen way too many accidents to want to participate further, this one that Peter happened upon so closely would have freaked me out as well. I'm happy to read that Gary is making somewhat of a recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by love4himies View Post
    Any idea on how the cyclist made out?
    Reporter says, "Seems like the Policeman's lack of judgement. 37 Year old Cyclist received a concussion, lost consciousness, but non life-threatening."
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