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    Quote Originally Posted by duriel View Post
    Get the netting out and use it.
    I would consider this a natural cause (non-man made).
    If you want to get philosophical about it, yeah it's all natural and you can include Darwin awards and pure stupidity (like nuking ourselves into a new star) Man's inhumanity to man is as natural as a beaver damming up a river.
    Of course I'm sure...that doesn't mean I'm right.....

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    who ate all the donuts?--this was just getting interesting
    "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Touch0Gray View Post
    Man's inhumanity to man is as natural as a beaver damming up a river.
    I somewhat agree, so what your saying is that man killing man is natural. That is what I'm getting from this. So if it is, why is it illegal in most societies, cause there are a couple of people on my 'list'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine View Post
    IMO WW2 definitely was a religious war. YOMV.

    Hitler said he was doing "God's will." Based on his autobiography, he wasn't faking his belief, either (though I understand there's at least one sanitized, heavily-edited version of Mein Kampf that scrubs all religious references.)

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    Although German "national socialism" operated almost like a religion in itself (and broke many of the most basic tenets of x-tianity as well), what most historians don't emphasize is that H*tl*r, as well as ALL the other fascist leaders in Europe, was a Roman Catholic, and got LOTS of initial support from conservative religious groups which were funded by right-wing cardinals, and even the Vatican itself.
    "L'enfer, c'est les autres"

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Time Toulouse View Post
    Although German "national socialism" operated almost like a religion in itself (and broke many of the most basic tenets of x-tianity as well), what most historians don't emphasize is that H*tl*r, as well as ALL the other fascist leaders in Europe, was a Roman Catholic, and got LOTS of initial support from conservative religious groups which were funded by right-wing cardinals, and even the Vatican itself.
    All religions are cults.

    All political parties are cults.

    Once you understand that, things like the above are quite clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duriel View Post
    I somewhat agree, so what your saying is that man killing man is natural. That is what I'm getting from this. So if it is, why is it illegal in most societies, cause there are a couple of people on my 'list'.
    If I ever get rabies...I have a list of people I am going to bite!
    Of course I'm sure...that doesn't mean I'm right.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_GRUMPY View Post
    Here is a deep question:
    What would life be like if man didn't have to create god to explain things that they didn't understand?

    A) Peace on Earth
    B) Constant war and suffering and XXXXXX (wait a minute)
    C) No difference.
    If you pick (A), I may say you are a dreamer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonHowl View Post
    If you pick (A), I may say you are a dreamer.
    .....but he's not the only one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Touch0Gray View Post
    If you want to get philosophical about it, yeah it's all natural and you can include Darwin awards and pure stupidity (like nuking ourselves into a new star) Man's inhumanity to man is as natural as a beaver damming up a river.
    The first law of evolution is survival of the fittest. Competition determines whose DNA gets to go forward.

    We are the product of millions of years of intense competition to determine who will survive whatever the environment throws at us.

    Not surprising we are hyper competitive, ruthless and vicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimb100 View Post
    The first law of evolution is survival of the fittest. Competition determines whose DNA gets to go forward.

    We are the product of millions of years of intense competition to determine who will survive whatever the environment throws at us.

    Not surprising we are hyper competitive, ruthless and vicious.
    I certainly don't consider myself to be "hyper competitive, ruthless and vicious" but then again I'm not looking to send any DNA forward (into the future that is). What a relief.

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    Evolution doesn't necessarily favor the "ruthless" and "intensely competitive" in all situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine View Post
    Evolution doesn't necessarily favor the "ruthless" and "intensely competitive" in all situations.
    Jefferson Starship, 1970 Mau Mau

    You know Tyrannosaurus Rex was destroyed before
    By a furry little ball that crawled along
    The primeval jungle floor
    He stole the eggs of the dinosaur
    CLOSE YOUR EYES & CREATE THE SOUND
    OPEN YOUR HANDS & REBUILD THE GROUND
    We are egg snatchers -
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    Of course I'm sure...that doesn't mean I'm right.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dir-t View Post
    I certainly don't consider myself to be "hyper competitive, ruthless and vicious" but then again I'm not looking to send any DNA forward (into the future that is). What a relief.
    Everything is on a bell shaped curve. You are likely on the far left and lucky that for the last few hundred years we have lived a more leisurely existence. The first 5 million were a bit*ch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine View Post
    Evolution doesn't necessarily favor the "ruthless" and "intensely competitive" in all situations.
    Your likely thinking of today's world. 3 million years ago it was a different story.

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