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    Question Geetar playuz, question about overdrive pedals

    First, where I'm at now:
    I have a basic 15 watt solid state practice amp, a few used pedals (cheap Danelectro wah-wah, a Boss phaser, and a reverb by Digitec) from the local pawn shop, and a cheesy yet well setup Epiphone Les Paul Jr. that I upgraded the bridge pickup with a Lace humbucker.

    Until tax time, I'm on a tight guitar related budget. A new mid-range guitar is in the near future, and a better amp is later down the road. I haven't played in a good 20 years, and am regaining my skills at a better than expected rate.

    Want/need:
    While I'd like a nice analog chorus and maybe a delay pedal, I'm needing something for some classic over-driven tube sound first. My desire is a Boss BD-2 Blues Driver pedal, and perhaps a mod to sweeten it up, like the Monte Allums H2O Mod Plus.

    I'm seeking some experienced advice about overdrive pedals. I'm not looking for major distortion, but more a bluesy or classic tone. I know a better geetar with a neck pickup, plus a tube amp would get me most of the tone I seek, but I need a shortcut for now. I can certainly use the pedal later, even with some great gear.
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    Get a Line 6 amp that has all that stuff built into it.
    "It's turtles all the way down."

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    Ask over at Harmony Central...people over there live for these types of questions like people do over here for bike questions.

    //get a tube screamer

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    Boss Turbo Overdrive
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmxhacksaw
    Get a Line 6 amp that has all that stuff built into it.
    I checked out the Line 6 Spider III's. Sound pretty cool.
    Also played with the $200 Peavey VYPYR 30 and was blown away.

    Either way, no pedals needed. I'd rather go without any pedals if possible.

    My dream amp is a Mesa/Boogie Express 5:25, but I'll have to save up some serious kitchen passes for a $1200 amp.
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    I have an Epi Les Paul and a Line 6 Spider II 75w head and 4x12 cabinet. "I like it a lot."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tig
    I checked out the Line 6 Spider III's. Sound pretty cool.
    Also played with the $200 Peavey VYPYR 30 and was blown away.

    Either way, no pedals needed. I'd rather go without any pedals if possible.

    My dream amp is a Mesa/Boogie Express 5:25, but I'll have to save up some serious kitchen passes for a $1200 amp.
    marshall bluesbreaker? now that would break the bank.




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    the Digitech Bad Monkey is quite nice.

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    Electro-Harmonix Hot Tubes

    http://www.ehx.com/products/hot-tubes

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    Hey Tig,

    You speak mods - if you're into rolling your own, check out http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/ and http://www.tonepad.com/projects.asp?projectType=fx. Lots of good info on building your own pedals. You can then tweak whatever you build to your taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmxhacksaw
    I have an Epi Les Paul and a Line 6 Spider II 75w head and 4x12 cabinet. "I like it a lot."
    I found an Epi Les Paul Studio in good shape at the pawn shop, black, about 5 years old, going for $329, but I bet I could get 'em to knock it down a bit. I got the pedals for dirt cheap.

    I don't need no giant stage power. The Mesa 5:25 is a 5 watt class A, 25 watt A/B with 2 channels and an effects loop. Super versatile tube amp with plenty of volume if needed.
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    Ditch all the pedals and get a Digitech RP100. Innumerable effects, amp modeling, guitar modeling, etc. Of course I still sometimes break out my original Electro-Harmonix Big Muff
    Just because you won't listen to reason does not mean I have to listen to idiocy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtleherder
    Ditch all the pedals and get a Digitech RP100. Innumerable effects, amp modeling, guitar modeling, etc. Of course I still sometimes break out my original Electro-Harmonix Big Muff
    How nice do those sound? Not too painful to use I hope. I think they have a newer version for that model now.

    I'm not too crazy about the multi-effect pod types. I see them on Craigslist all the time, like people wish they never bought it. All are obviously not created equal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tig
    How nice do those sound? Not too painful to use I hope. I think they have a newer version for that model now.

    I'm not too crazy about the multi-effect pod types. I see them on Craigslist all the time, like people wish they never bought it. All are obviously not created equal.
    I have a Zoom effects box with drum machine and USB interface. It's fun to mess with, but to be honest, most of the effects are pretty useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tig
    How nice do those sound? Not too painful to use I hope. I think they have a newer version for that model now.

    I'm not too crazy about the multi-effect pod types. I see them on Craigslist all the time, like people wish they never bought it. All are obviously not created equal.

    I bought mine back in 2000 and now there are new versions which I am sure are improved. I think it sounds pretty good and each part of each effect is modifiable so you can tweak it to your own needs. Is it the best rig in the world? No. But it's pretty damn cheap and it will take you months to run through all the combinations.
    Just because you won't listen to reason does not mean I have to listen to idiocy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogger
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    I have Gilligan as my main radio receiver

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    I use a TC Electronic BLD (booster/line driver) booster.

    You can't find them much anymore because Scott Ian swore by them so all the metalheads bought them up after they were discontinued. But it's a warmer sounding boost, like of like a David Gilmour bluesy-type tone.

    The tube screamers are pretty popular as are the blues drivers.

    For amps, get a little Vox AC15 with a booster, that would be a cool small set-up.
    Maybe a little spendy but nice.
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    Go here and listen---

    Check out proguitarshop.com. They sell effects and the site has videos where you can hear many of them. For me, it s impossible to describe the sound of effects, so go there and listen.

    Buy the one that sounds good to you. My favorite is the Fullltone, but I am not high on effect overdrive.

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    Tube Screamer FTW! Hendrix, SRV, ect. nuff said

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    Ibanez Tube Screamer.
    Boss Super Overdrive.
    Hot Cake.

    I haven't played a Line 6 in several years, but I remember them sounding great at low volumes, but completely crapping out when you're in a band setting.

    Both the Super Overdrive and the Tube Screamer -- whether tweaked or left as it is -- will easily give you a beautiful, singing, bluesy, overdriven tone. The Hot Cake has a slightly more modern sound, as it adds a bit of crazy, amp-going-bad distortion. Any of the three will light your fingers on fire.
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    The Mesa Boogie unit - expensive, but great sound

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    yup

    Quote Originally Posted by pdh777
    The Mesa Boogie unit - expensive, but great sound
    it is no longer made but the V-Twin is the BOMB

    or a Radial ToneBone Plexitube, Blackstar HT, AMT TPL
    find one with at least 1 maybe 2 12AX7 Tubes in it. I never used a 'box' for distortion, ran a pre-amp with 4 or 6 12 AX7s, power amp was 8 6L6s and 3 12 AX7s (90 watts a side). You want leslie west, get your power amp to clip
    Nice fat, clipped sine wave only achieved by a tube pushed to its limit. CREAMY
    to ANGRY DOG CHEWING ON YOUR FOOT

    I hate F'ing square wave solid state dsitortion crap.
    BS 'modeling'. 12 volt digital 'impressions'.

    would I buy a bike that 'rides like a Merckx?'
    No I'd buy a Merckx, so why would I buy something that 'Sounds like Tubes'?

    oh and if you are going to run digital processing, have a small mixer. Split your signal in 2, one going to the processor and your 'dry' signal staying at full voltage. (Parallel wiring)
    use the small mixer to manually mix wet and dry lines before feeding into the power amp.
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