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    I drove the Chevrolet Volt

    It drives very nice. My drive report here and pix below.
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    For $40,000 it should drive better than very nice.

    And the back seat seems to have very little leg room.
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    hang up and drive, hippie.

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    what made you turn orange?

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    I'm interested in the volt. How were you treated by the reps?

    The reason I ask is I went down to the Nissan dealer a while back to maybe get on the list for a Leaf, but go the old "Hold it right there pard'ner. You don't just come and pay for the car and expect to have one delivered sometime next year. You're going to have to suck our dicks, expect to pay at least $10K over MSRP and then maybe we'll schedule the electrician to come to your house for the privelege of seeing if you have a suitable 220V outlet to charge it. Oh and by the way, have you seen the new Altima... it's very good on gas" attitude. So, I left. I'm exaggerating a bit... they would have probably negotiated down to a reach-around, but I really hate greasy car salesmen. I realize demand is/will be heavy for these cars, but they need to realize that copping an attitude is going to turn people off and generate bad press.

    What's the attitude like with Chevy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bahueh
    what made you turn orange?
    toxic sludge- apparently its all the range in Hungary
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    How long does the battery last when it's 5 degrees F, and the heater is on full?

    How long does the battery last when it's 95 degrees F, and the AC is on Max??

    When will the retail price come down to $24,000 ?
    Call me when it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zender
    I'm interested. I went down to the Nissan dealer a while back to get on the list for a Leaf, but go the old "Hold it right there pard'ner. You don't just come and pay for the car and expect to have one delivered next year. You're going to have to suck our dicks, expect to pay $10K over MSRP and then maybe we'll schedule the electrician to come to your house for the privelege of seeing if you have a suitable 220V outlet to charge it" attitude. So, I left. I'm exaggerating a bit... they would have probably negotiated down to a reach-around. I really hate car salesmen. I realize demand is/will be heavy for these cars, but they need to realize that if you're willing to spend money on something sight-unseen, copping an attitude is going to turn people off.

    What's the attitude at Chevy?
    I won't guarantee good or bad treatment from whatever Chevy dealer you live by; dealers are independent businesses and will vary from one another. Only 10K Volts are scheduled for 2011 production and the rollout process (beginning around this Thanksgiving) will be gradual, starting with only a few states and then expanding throughout '11. Suffice to say even at $40K+ dollars (less $7500 tax credit) the Volt will sell out.

    In what part of the country do you live?
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    people in CA won't buy a chevy car even if it got unlimited gas mileage and farted redwood trees

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_GRUMPY
    How long does the battery last when it's 5 degrees F, and the heater is on full?

    How long does the battery last when it's 95 degrees F, and the AC is on Max??

    When will the retail price come down to $24,000 ?
    Call me when it does.
    The Volt's battery has an active temperature management system which cools and heats battery cells as needed - it'll be protected from those kinds of situations. You might be thinking about the Nissan LEAF whose battery doesn't have any temperature management system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_GRUMPY
    How long does the battery last when it's 5 degrees F, and the heater is on full?

    How long does the battery last when it's 95 degrees F, and the AC is on Max??

    When will the retail price come down to $24,000 ?
    Call me when it does.
    I think the proper answer is

    significantly shorter than the claimed 40 mile range

    from what I've read, people/testers are seeing 25-50 mile range on electric before the motor has to kick on

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    I've driven the Tesla, Leaf and Volt. I think I'm gonna wait a little more before I go electric. The lease price of the Leaf and Volt aren't too bad, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bahueh
    what made you turn orange?
    Didn't you see it in all the other pix? I had to keep the orange theme going.
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    That's the 'all electric' car that's actually a hybrid, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_GRUMPY
    How long does the battery last when it's 5 degrees F, and the heater is on full?

    How long does the battery last when it's 95 degrees F, and the AC is on Max??

    When will the retail price come down to $24,000 ?
    Call me when it does.
    Oh, quit yer bichin.

    As long as the smoke comes out of a stack instead of a tailpipe, it's all good, right?


    Now, put that completely wasted rebate money into some renewable electric capacity, and I'm all ears.

    But new rule: you're only allowed to plug your car in on sunny afternoons.











    //Don't mean to PO it. just to say, the current approach is right minded but wrongly executed, and these things aren't anywhere being either environmentally or practically useful. All this really is, is a way to charge $40,000 for $14,000 worth of utility and environmental friendliness. But, baby steps, I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starliner
    The Volt's battery has an active temperature management system which cools and heats battery cells as needed - it'll be protected from those kinds of situations. You might be thinking about the Nissan LEAF whose battery doesn't have any temperature management system.
    And doesn't the active temperature management system consume energy?
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    I think Starliner has a direct interest in selling the Volt.
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    does the tesla have a gearbox or does is shift herky-jerky? i didnt think it would have a gearbox, but i have seen two and they both shook like the driver was shifting like a 16 year old with open wheel dreams. maybe it was the same crapy driver...

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Chinaski
    I've driven the Tesla, Leaf and Volt. I think I'm gonna wait a little more before I go electric. The lease price of the Leaf and Volt aren't too bad, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weltyed
    does the tesla have a gearbox or does is shift herky-jerky? i didnt think it would have a gearbox, but i have seen two and they both shook like the driver was shifting like a 16 year old with open wheel dreams. maybe it was the same crapy driver...
    the tesla is direct drive single speed transmission


    they used to have a 2 speed trans, but reliability of the thing was a problem

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    Screw the car.

    I want to know who the hottie in the orange is.

    And I demand better pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murbike
    That's the 'all electric' car that's actually a hybrid, right?
    Depends on who you listen to. The Chevy engineers will tell you it's an electric car, since the motor isn't directly shafted to the wheels.

    I say we give them the benefit of the doubt. After all, they've managed to bring American automotive engineering up to 1899 levels.

    Except that the volt isn't 4WD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unclefuzzy_ss
    Screw the car.

    I want to know who the hottie in the orange is.

    And I demand better pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roscoe
    the tesla is direct drive single speed transmission


    they used to have a 2 speed trans, but reliability of the thing was a problem
    Yep. Handles like a porky Lotus, has the fit and finish of a $40k car and no sexy exhaust note. The instant torque is kind of cool though. For the same money give me a V8 Vantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murbike
    That's the 'all electric' car that's actually a hybrid, right?
    I think there's a pretty major difference between a 'regular' hybrid that nearly always has the gas engine running, and a 'plug-in' hybrid that runs in electric mode for the first x miles, and then runs the gas engine only as a range-extender/battery-charger.

    A 'regular' hybrid like the Prius gets you around 50mpg. A plug-in hybrid, in typical daily use, has the potential to do much better than that. Heck, if your daily commute is short enough, you might seldom if ever need to use the gas motor.

    That said, the Volt's a bit more than I wish to spend. Plus, even if it weren't, I'd want to wait a year and see how the reliability is.

    It's still a very good thing though. With enough time and economies of scale, plug-in hybrids will become quite a bit cheaper, and likely as reliable as current regular hybrids are (if they aren't already).

    Once that happens, it will be pretty hard not to buy one... particularly once gasoline hits $4-5/gallon again, something that seems more of a "when" than an "if".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starliner
    The Volt's battery has an active temperature management system which cools and heats battery cells as needed - it'll be protected from those kinds of situations. You might be thinking about the Nissan LEAF whose battery doesn't have any temperature management system.

    I'm talking about MY "temperature management system".


    How does the car heat the occupants on battery power?

    How does the AC work, on battery power?

    Or does the gas engine kick on whenever it's below 65 degrees, or above 80.

    That would make it 85% of the time in Illinois.
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