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    I are an idjuct!

    So, the latest project in home destruction is the replacement of a ceramic tile floor in the living room (fireplace room)

    I will preface this by saying that it was not my idea.

    The floor was installed before the invention of cement backer board and there were multiple cracked tiles. In spite of the fact that there are 2 x 12 joists, 3/4" tongue and grooved plywood with 1/2 inch plywood glued and screwed over it.

    I started yesterday afternoon, (then took Mom out to dinner) worked another couple of hours, then went to bed with the intention of getting up early to start hauling busted tiles to a "clean fill" pit I have about 800 feet from the house. Well, it went down to 25 last night (yes that pleased me) so the ground was frozen enough to support 7500 pounds of bobcat with a load.

    Before it got soft, I finished tearing out the old floor and got it all hauled. (total of 5 hours of back breaking work)

    I highly recommend having at least a couple of 36" doors in a house so that you can get a wheelbarrow in your living room!

    Total of 8 hours on it today, on top of trying to make a living to pay for the new floor.

    Anyone have a secret to scraping thinset off of plywood? I bought a "barn scraper" that does an ok job. But I would like a magic tool.
    Of course I'm sure...that doesn't mean I'm right.....

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    I got an Oscillating tool and it has turned into a favorite. It peeled linoleum right off and did a pretty good job of cleaning up behind a couple of tiles I botched on my install. That and a heavy assed ice chopper.

    The scraper blades worked pretty well. The blades wear fast but they're cheap enough and can make short work in plenty of applications. Lot of different types of blades which adds up to lots of different uses.

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    I just saw that Sawzall looking bladed tool(barn scrapper?) and don't know that the oscillating tool would offer anything more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velodog View Post
    I just saw that Sawzall looking bladed tool(barn scrapper?) and don't know that the oscillating tool would offer anything more.
    You mean other than control? I have a porter cable oscillating tool, I absolutely love it! (second oscillating tool, first was a no name brand, it died, but I had a new one in less than 2 hours!)

    Barn scraper is manual, on a 4 foot handle, for scraping crap off the barn floor (literally)
    Of course I'm sure...that doesn't mean I'm right.....

    "There's no sense being stupid unless you show it."

    "that was like trying to teach a goldfish how to play basketball over the phone."

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    Yeah, exactly the same as an ice chopper
    Of course I'm sure...that doesn't mean I'm right.....

    "There's no sense being stupid unless you show it."

    "that was like trying to teach a goldfish how to play basketball over the phone."

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    I feel your pain...there is no magic.

    Sorry,

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.R. View Post
    I feel your pain...there is no magic.

    Sorry,
    Please tell me you are just giving me a hard time?
    Of course I'm sure...that doesn't mean I'm right.....

    "There's no sense being stupid unless you show it."

    "that was like trying to teach a goldfish how to play basketball over the phone."

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    Can't get thinset off the subfloor? Easiest solution: replace subfloor.
    "Refreshingly Unconcerned With The Vulgar Exigencies Of Veracity "

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    We are going out of town this weekend, I am not going to be done.
    Of course I'm sure...that doesn't mean I'm right.....

    "There's no sense being stupid unless you show it."

    "that was like trying to teach a goldfish how to play basketball over the phone."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    Can't get thinset off the subfloor? Easiest solution: replace subfloor.
    Probably not..... Trust me, I would really like to. I built this house, I know what would be involved.
    Of course I'm sure...that doesn't mean I'm right.....

    "There's no sense being stupid unless you show it."

    "that was like trying to teach a goldfish how to play basketball over the phone."

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    I will probably rent a floor sander. Hey, this was my wife's idea, shouldn't she be doing it?
    Of course I'm sure...that doesn't mean I'm right.....

    "There's no sense being stupid unless you show it."

    "that was like trying to teach a goldfish how to play basketball over the phone."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Touch0Gray View Post
    I will probably rent a floor sander. Hey, this was my wife's idea, shouldn't she be doing it?
    Don't forget to get under the moldings...Oh, and you'll want a respirator as well as hearing protection.


    After 5 minutes of unholy levels of noise...The Mrs. will see the light and accept putting down carpet and leaving it.
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    Maybe call Trump?

    I hear he's the best at replacing things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    Don't forget to get under the moldings...Oh, and you'll want a respirator as well as hearing protection.


    After 5 minutes of unholy levels of noise...The Mrs. will see the light and accept putting down carpet and leaving it.
    One word...... Woodburner
    Of course I'm sure...that doesn't mean I'm right.....

    "There's no sense being stupid unless you show it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.R. View Post
    Maybe call Trump?

    I hear he's the best at replacing things.
    That kinda depends on your definition of best.
    Of course I'm sure...that doesn't mean I'm right.....

    "There's no sense being stupid unless you show it."

    "that was like trying to teach a goldfish how to play basketball over the phone."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    Don't forget to get under the moldings...Oh, and you'll want a respirator as well as hearing protection.


    After 5 minutes of unholy levels of noise...The Mrs. will see the light and accept putting down carpet and leaving it.
    Molding is removed, just tried sanding, takes it right off!
    Of course I'm sure...that doesn't mean I'm right.....

    "There's no sense being stupid unless you show it."

    "that was like trying to teach a goldfish how to play basketball over the phone."

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    I feel your pain brother. Been there, got the scars.

    If tile is going back down, I'm a big fan of the Schluter Ditra isolation membrane--the tiles are probably cracking because of expansion/contraction rather than deflection....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Touch0Gray View Post
    I will probably rent a floor sander. Hey, this was my wife's idea, shouldn't she be doing it?
    hahaha I do a trick with my hubby when he says he's not going to help, I pretend I'm struggling then he rolls his eyes and steps in. I even get him to change the tubes in my tires, lol.

    Seriously. We have taken off ceramic and we have not found an easy way except to scrap the thin set off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paredown View Post
    I feel your pain brother. Been there, got the scars.

    If tile is going back down, I'm a big fan of the Schluter Ditra isolation membrane--the tiles are probably cracking because of expansion/contraction rather than deflection....
    Yup, we have experienced this. We now use 1/2 inch hardie board.
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    I'd level the leftover mess with flashpatch, then lay down fresh plywood and backerboard as soon as the flashpatch dries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eretz View Post
    Yeah I just ordered 2 wheels!
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    Big hammer drill with a spade bit. My tile guy charges .25 per sq ft to remove and haul tile to the dumpster outside if he gets the reinstall job.

    From what I have seen in your pictures, he would have had it chipped up and hauled out in about 5 hrs. Clean ready for new tile in 7 hrs.

    When I start figuring how much my time is worth I cannot justify doing any of that myself. But I would have in the old days when I was young and broke.

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