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    Quote Originally Posted by QuiQuaeQuod View Post
    I'm looking for something with a bit more color.

    The hard part is avoiding more than a mild sense of disapproval. Most things I think of (and suggested) carry too much negativity. I need to convey as MOST a befuddled head shake at the cluelessness.

    Ethereal doesn't quite get the sense. And more nounish would be nice.

    Cloud walker? Maybe, plays off head in the clouds, which is kind of there. Cloud foot? Hell no!

    Stargazer? Always looking up, never down? Too celebrity struck sounding.

    Ivory tower takes it into lack of understanding/out of touch with things territory. I need too much understanding, not enough translation of understanding.

    HSL. Human as a second language. That I like, but it's too strong.

    Fish out of water + something something might work. Hmmmm.

    Talosians? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ca...)#Plot_summary Nahhhhh.

    Bones. From the TV show. That kind of captures it as a character. Talking way too high, and a bit clueless about doing so since what she says is so obvious and simple, really.

    Maybe I should search TV Tropes?

    I know what I want it to do, I just can't figure out how to get it to do it.
    If it's t.v., pop culture references how about "don't be a Sheldon"?
    Just because you won't listen to reason does not mean I have to listen to idiocy.

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    Just got Miyagied?

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    Interlevel Incompetent? Can be used as a noun or adjective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SystemShock View Post
    Sheldon Cooper.
    This seems to work for people, though I think Bones is closer in terms of fit. More popular as a show for sure. More memes for sure. It's on the list.

    "Brainiac who can't explainiac" is turning out to "test" very well, much better than I thought it would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuiQuaeQuod View Post
    This seems to work for people, though I think Bones is closer in terms of fit. More popular as a show for sure. More memes for sure. It's on the list.

    "Brainiac who can't explainiac" is turning out to "test" very well, much better than I thought it would.
    Happy to have been of assistance. I sometimes have a knack for quips that shoot from the hip. Plus, rhymes stick in the head/are memorable.

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    Eschew obfuscation. The person you are referencing is an obfuscator.

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    A couple of the suggestions, such as abstruse and ivory tower, get close, but isn't it amazing that there doesn't seem to be a common go-to term for the situation. I have to say, though, that I love "brainiac-who-can't-explainiac." Maybe in a couple years we'll all be babbling it.
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    Picasso painting the bathroom

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    Quote Originally Posted by SystemShock View Post
    What is it you're doing anyway, if you're allowed to say?
    It's nothing particularly exciting. Just some research I am helping an undergrad work on and learn from for their purposes. We have a large amount of data of people talking about how other people talk to others in formal settings. Reactions to speeches, pretty much covers it.

    We subjected that metatalk to rigorous analysis, and then broke it down into different types of reactions. We pulled good quotes that summarize the talk about talk by type, and summarized using those quotes. This is attempting to summarize the summary of talking types to the smallest possible phrasing.

    Some of the other types of talking about talkers include "tour guide". Tour guides move through a series of connected things and point, while giving interesting (or boring) facts about them. "Time lords" (which amused me to use) make time disappear so they are done before people notice time has passed.

    These types will stick with people who hear them, or read them, but adds absolutely nothing to our analysis or conclusions. Basically, it makes it easier for people to talk about the work to others, which is not a bad thing. And it makes it easier for use to explain findings in 30 seconds... to people who won't care about it in any depth.
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    "tour guide" ?

    How about "Bore Guide" for the person who talks over the heads of the audience?

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    What about:

    Plain and simple communications.

    8th (or whatever grade) level communications

    Simple talk for simple folks

    Level of the audience

    Level of understanding
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPlKE View Post
    How about "Bore Guide" for the person who talks over the heads of the audience?
    The listeners did not talk about those kinds of speakers in terms of being boring, for the most part. The speaker was smart, the listener confused and lost.

    Aiming too low (not a main reactions theme, btw), which is pretty boring from the comments, that elicited reactions of anger at being "condescended to". The speaker was condescending (or stupid), and the listener was pissed off at the waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuiQuaeQuod View Post
    I need a word, or a short phrase, to describe someone who pitches things way above their audience. Not a jerk, not an egotistical way of doing so, but rather a bit clueless about it. So a math prof trying to teach 8th grade math, or a pro athlete trying to teach pee wee sports.

    Help appreciated regardless of quality. Snark appreciated proportionate to quality.
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    Runner who forgot how to walk
    Puts paddlers in the deep end
    Speaking in miles instead of inches

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    Ten dollar speaker with a ten cent audience.

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    Snakebit probably has a couple of good ones for this. You should PM him, Q.
    System: Fake news?? Trump is a Fake President™, for god's sake.

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    Plat: I'd rather fellate a syphilitic goat than own a Cervelo.

    EJ Dionne: Modern-day conservatism isn't conservatism. It's reaction rooted in deep pessimism that isn't in keeping with the American character.

    Seam: Saw Bjork poop onstage back in the day. It blew my teenage mind.


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    I would ask a German.

    There's bound to be a German word or phrase for exactly this. Something like "Hohenufer ubersprechung."

    Better ask a real German though.

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    Instead of a word or phrase, how about a name?

    Professor Irwin Corey.

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