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    New bass stings! GHS Flatwounds! (cello tuning) Wow!

    Most may find this boring. My young kids are musical explorers. My sixth grader is learning cello pretty well. We have a couple guitars and keyboards, and drums, and the cello, but we had no bass. So, I had my eye out for a deal.

    I stumbled upon a P-Bass at the pawn shop. I get my other boy, a dramatic third grader, to act all sad and talk them down on price - we get it for $60. It looks banged up, but I know I can throw a little money at it if necessary and make it all work out.

    Well, I know guitar tuning, and with the cello experience have learned that the tuning is different. So, I thought, why not tune the bass like the cello, then the cello player can just transfer what he knows - and I can teach half-steps and such more literally, since there will be actual frets to look at. [I keep calling the cello "finger board" a "fret board," and I keep talking about steps and half-steps, which are illusory to him since they cannot be seen].

    But this tuning sounds terrible. The lowest string is flabby, and the highest is too stressed. On the web I figure out that the strings are not right. So, I jump at some web wisdom, and see that others have used this set-up: GHS flatwounds, at .126, .085, .055, .040 -
    I talked the the big guy, Jason, at Bass Stings Online, and he helped me figure out winding length, etc.

    They arrived a few days ago, but the flood delayed this task - but I was finally able to get them on the p-bass tonite - wow, this is a lot of fun - this thing sounds great. Partly due to new strings, but these weights are right for the tuning, and do it well.

    For electric bass, there simply is a good case for regular tuning, and I may go back - cello tuning partly is the way it is to keep you on one string a lot, while elec bass tuning is partly to allow you to keep your fretting hand in one place by jumping up strings more - but for now, we are having fun.

    So, for now, i am happy with my $60 P-Bass with $30 thrown in for new strings. I say: consider the GHS flatwounds and consider Bass Stings Online.

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    Thanks! My daughter plays cello and the electric bass. I will give it a try.

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    Gabba Gabba Hey!

    I admit I don't know what your trying to do with the cello thing but you had me at P-Bass! P-Bass rules all. My favorite player.
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    I'm GAS'ing pretty hard for a bass. I'm offloading some old guitar gear to raise funds
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    That's a pretty good find.

    Quote Originally Posted by old_fuji View Post
    I'm GAS'ing pretty hard for a bass. I'm offloading some old guitar gear to raise funds
    I was able to resist the call of a bass on Friday afternoon. Stopped off to pick up some guitar strings and against better judgement walked into the guitar room. It was close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10ae1203 View Post
    That's a pretty good find.



    I was able to resist the call of a bass on Friday afternoon. Stopped off to pick up some guitar strings and against better judgement walked into the guitar room. It was close.
    I'm not. I stopped in to sign up for some guitar lessons (there's a heckuva arrangement of The First Noel that I want to learn for Christmas, that I haven't been able to crack on my own), and finally got to pick up one of the Broncos and play around with it a little. In a word, I'm hooked. I'll be saving my pennies, overtime, and mileage checks to pick one of these little guys up.
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    I know that Robert Fripp tunes his guitar (called New Standard Tuning, or NST) sort of like a cello, tuned with fifths for most of the strings, but a bass is different, tuned in fourths. This method of tuning requires a couple of the strings to be more highly tensioned, which can cause problems with weaker necks. My sister used to play bass, and she said that she's never heard of anybody tuning a bass like this.
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    cellos, violas and violins are tuned to 5ths

    Cello is C G D A

    Guitar and Bass are tuned to 4ths. EADG (both) BE (guitar) except for the B which is a Maj 3rd

    Fripps NST is perfect fifths with a minor 3rd at the top

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaeP View Post
    I admit I don't know what your trying to do with the cello thing but you had me at P-Bass! P-Bass rules all. My favorite player.
    I met DeeDee once; he was stoned, of course.

    My favourite bassist has to be Peter Hook.

    BTW, anybody know how a Warr guitar is tuned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Time Toulouse View Post
    I met DeeDee once; he was stoned, of course.

    My favourite bassist has to be Peter Hook.

    BTW, anybody know how a Warr guitar is tuned?
    Bass strings go High to Low, then guitar strings go Low to High


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    Quote Originally Posted by No Time Toulouse View Post
    I met DeeDee once; he was stoned, of course.

    My favourite bassist has to be Peter Hook.

    BTW, anybody know how a Warr guitar is tuned?

    I had to look up Warr Guitars, only to find this:

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    Warr Guitars was an offshoot of the Chapman Stick.
    Trey Gunn is probably the most well known
    This tune harkens back to Discipline
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    with the narrow string gaps and cello tuning the players can hold a 1_5 power chord with one finger
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    Quote Originally Posted by atpjunkie View Post
    Warr Guitars was an offshoot of the Chapman Stick.
    Trey Gunn is probably the most well known
    This tune harkens back to Discipline

    ...which was originally played by Tony Levin, on a Chapman Stick....
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Time Toulouse View Post
    ...which was originally played by Tony Levin, on a Chapman Stick....
    yup.Trey plays with Crimson as well. Have seen he and Levin together
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    Well, Trey is no longer with KC, and neither is Belew. I was a bit disappointing when I saw them in June; too much sax and drums, and Tony hardly played the stick at all....
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Time Toulouse View Post
    Well, Trey is no longer with KC, and neither is Belew. I was a bit disappointing when I saw them in June; too much sax and drums, and Tony hardly played the stick at all....
    I saw all 3 tours with the Discipline line up and one after, Discipline Crew plus Trey. I haven't seen the new line up, but saw fripp with various Guitar Craft incarnations
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