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    Crossing the Susquehanna via Route 1 (Conowingo Dam) in Maryland.

    Okay, maybe someone can help me with this even though I seem to have the answer:

    Last year, I had to temporarily re-locate to Bedford County, Virginia. I have friends I like to visit in Philadelphia and New York. I am very into long distance endurance cycling, and have ridden from Virginia to New York several times in 2012. I ALWAYS took route 372 across the Susquehanna in Pennsylvania which took me through Pennsylvania Dutch Country (nice ride by the way). I am considering bypassing Lancaster County, Pa this time and cross the Susquehanna via Route 1 (The Conowingo Dam). I am planning my next ride for early April.

    I have checked D.O.T. maps, and they seem to indicate cycling or even walking is permitted across the Conowingo (which would be the only road in the entire state of Maryland one can cross the Susquehanna without a motor vehicle).

    I have driven across the Conowingo many times. I have not seen a walkway, nor is there any shoulder. It's nearly a mile from one side of the Dam to the other. I do not really have any reservations of riding across (of course I'll want to get it over with and get to the other side as quickly as possible). But I can't help but question whether or not this is really permitted (I never saw a cyclist or pedestrian doing it on any of the many drives across the dam I have done).

    So are there any riders from that general area who have done it themselves, or know for sure if it's allowed? Is there a walkway not visible from the road itself which would be the reason I never saw one? If so, I have to be prepared to stop coming down the steep grade on Route 1 approaching the Conowingo (from either direction) instead of getting up to 40+ MPH to give me a good start across the dam. Route 1 on the Conowingo is narrow, and I can anticipate frustrated motorists behind a cyclist crossing the Susquehanna there. I can not even imagine a pedestrian crossing that - not walking along the roadway.

    One thing is for sure if crossing the Conowingo is permitted and there is no walkway: It is NOT for the faint of heart.

    Thanks in advance for any help.
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    While it may not be a definitive answer for you, I looked on Strava and saw that the Rt 1 crossing has been done 67 times, at speeds in the 20's, indicating that it was ridden, not walked. HTH
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanE View Post
    While it may not be a definitive answer for you, I looked on Strava and saw that the Rt 1 crossing has been done 67 times, at speeds in the 20's, indicating that it was ridden, not walked. HTH
    Thanks Alan. Like I mentioned in the beginning of my post, I probably already have my answer with the D.O.T. map I have which indicates walking or cycling is allowed. I guess I just have a hard time with accepting there are no mistakes with the map given how narrow Route 1 is and no shoulder. Motorists must think of cyclist and pedestrians as nuts for doing it.

    I never thought to check out Strava. I am only vaguely familiar with it (never used it). You mentioned 67 crossings in the 20's. In what time frame? Day? Week? Month? Could be several bicycles an hour, or only 1 or 2 a day. Crossings in the 20's would probably be cyclists, motor vehicles do not slow down that much there . I know one thing for sure, if someone posts that they actually cross on the roadway (and there is in fact no walkway), I will use the downgrade to get some good speed and not drop below 30 before I am half way across (as long as I do not have a bad headwind, or better - maybe even have a tail wind).

    Thanks again.
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    Riding is permitted. I have done both directions it a few times. There is no walkway that I've seen, but I am usually trying to minimize my time on the dam.

    It's not too bad going east across the dam. There is a downhill to the dam itself so you can carry some speed over the narrowest section of roadway. After that there is some room for cars and bike.

    Too bad there isn't time to take in the scenery or look for eagles in the transmission towers.

    What's your route from there, once you enter Cecil County?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream Plus View Post
    Riding is permitted. I have done both directions it a few times. There is no walkway that I've seen, but I am usually trying to minimize my time on the dam.

    It's not too bad going east across the dam. There is a downhill to the dam itself so you can carry some speed over the narrowest section of roadway. After that there is some room for cars and bike.

    Too bad there isn't time to take in the scenery or look for eagles in the transmission towers.

    What's your route from there, once you enter Cecil County?
    Thank you much for this post. I agree on probably no walkway, but I am glad to read from someone who has ridden across (walking also seems to be permitted, but that has to be a real adventure on foot). When I think about it, cycling is probably not too bad. It's only a few minutes, and I am sure many parts of the trip will be just as bad and worse traffic wise (only on the dam, there is no place to go but forward). LOL, here in Bedford County, Va they should just re-name route 122 from Bedford to Rocky Mount INTERSTATE 122 - loads of traffic all the time - no solitude (the whole county has more traffic than one would think for such a rual area). So a few minutes across the dam probably won't be a big deal. The scenery: It's true it's too bad there is no place to stop, but I am sure I'll be looking around a bit during the crossing since it will be my first time cycling across. Actually I remember a good downhill on both ends, so I am sure I will not be below the mid 20s by the half way point. Then deal with the climb after the crossing. If I stay with the plan and do route 1 this time as opposed to my few rides last year via Lancaster County, Pa., I plan to head up into Pennsylvania out of Rising Sun, Md.. This link is my planned route which is exactly the same as last year's until past the Baltimore Beltway. I did "walking" on Google as opposed to Bicycling because too many modifications would be necessary to omit every bike route on the way and save miles.


    VA-24 E/Stewartsville Rd to Chestnut St - Google Maps


    Most likely, I will be doing this non-stop (no more than half hour or so rest times a few times). If I have decided I have had enough of hills after 300+ miles, I may continue east on 273 to Newark, then through Wilmington and get along the Delaware for some flat riding. If I do that, I'll follow this route:


    VA-24 E/Stewartsville Rd to Chestnut St - Google Maps


    Alan asked what my total climbing was on the trip last year. It'd be interesting to know (from both directions), or maybe not - LOL. When I did the ride a few times in 2012, I avoided the Conowingo and took in Amish Country in Pa. which was enjoyable. Just for the heck of it, the following is last year's route:


    VA-24 E/Stewartsville Rd to Chestnut St - Google Maps


    Of course the map can be moved, zoomed in or out. My entire route is plotted from the nearest major intersection to me in Va. (which I will be going through) to Independance Mall in Philadelphia where I officially consider myself done (even though I will continue to N.E. Philadelphia from there). There is a strong possibility of my even continuing to Manhattan (N.Y.C.) to see other friends after a couple of days rest (which I did on a couple of my rides last year).

    Thanks again on the Conowingo input, and I hope to hear from others who have cycled across that and see what they have to say about it.
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    I crossed the Conowingo once in the wee hours of the morning last winter (3-4 am) and it was a pretty straight forward crossing. I was going east to west and I don't recall there being all that much wiggle room for cars to pass, but it's definitely doable and it's not super long. I was on a trip out to York, Pa from North Wilmington, De (pretty much on the Pa line), and I had crossed at Wrightsville a few times in the past. This time I was looking to add some new scenery and some extra miles to my trip, so I head south and crossed at the Conowingo. If you take 273 up through Newark and then head up through Wilmington, it should provide a good route to Philly. The ECG passes right through here.

    Good luck. Sounds like a fun trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88 rex View Post
    I crossed the Conowingo once in the wee hours of the morning last winter (3-4 am) and it was a pretty straight forward crossing. I was going east to west and I don't recall there being all that much wiggle room for cars to pass, but it's definitely doable and it's not super long. I was on a trip out to York, Pa from North Wilmington, De (pretty much on the Pa line), and I had crossed at Wrightsville a few times in the past. This time I was looking to add some new scenery and some extra miles to my trip, so I head south and crossed at the Conowingo. If you take 273 up through Newark and then head up through Wilmington, it should provide a good route to Philly. The ECG passes right through here.

    Good luck. Sounds like a fun trip.
    Great to read from another who has crossed the Conowingo. Doing it in the 'wee hours' is an idea. I do know motor traffic during the day can be heavy at times (like I said, I have driven across many times). It's the lack of 'wiggle room' that made me question being allowed to cross in any way other than a motor vehicle in spite of D.O.T. and Google indicating it is allowed, and Route 1 is the only place in Maryland where you can cross the Susquehanna on foot or bicycle. I know it's not very long (under a mile), but it can be a bit hairy. I guess the state allows it to be a TRUST thing. I am still undecided whether or not to get to flat territory as quick as possible. Sometimes the thought of traffic in the Newark and Wilmington areas do not exite me. But after 300 miles of hills...... It is a good ride. I did it several times last year, but always crossed the Susquehanna further north (west) on Route 372 and went via Pennsylvania Dutch Country, but man it gets hilly in parts - especially within a few miles of the river. Thanks for the input, and the 'wee hours' idea. Maybe I'll do that.
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    The Newark/Wilmington corridor is a great spot to ride. You would actually go around Wilmington proper, or at least I would. More scenic and better roads. Lots of wide shoulders and always a healthy dose of other riders on the road. If you aren't familiar with the area I could help you out with a safe route. I'm just not familiar with riding into and towards Philly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88 rex View Post
    The Newark/Wilmington corridor is a great spot to ride. You would actually go around Wilmington proper, or at least I would. More scenic and better roads. Lots of wide shoulders and always a healthy dose of other riders on the road. If you aren't familiar with the area I could help you out with a safe route. I'm just not familiar with riding into and towards Philly.
    I am definitely open to suggestions in the Wilmington/Newark areas. I do have my trip mapped out. If you scroll up to post #5 on this thread (long post) where I am responding to Dream Plus, you will see I included links to Google Maps with my trip outline. The second link is my planned route if I do not head up into Pennsylvania from Rising Sun, Md. (and this of course is if I do not do the same route as last year and go through Amish Country in Pennsylvania). Click on that second link. Google Maps should come up with my outlined route. Of course you can zoom in and out depending on the detail you want to see, and also move the map around. I do plan to stick with 273 to Newark. I have zero experience around Wilmington (on bicycle at least), so I am definitely open to suggestions on the best, easiest, most direct way to the Delaware if you do not agree my planned route is good. I just prefer to not go too far south given I am heading north, and will have been in the saddle more than 24 hours pretty much non-stop by this point. I am very familiar with roads/conditions from the Del/Pa state line, so no worries beyond that point. Thanks much. Sorry about the long posts, I actually hate the sound of the keyboard .
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    That was my route from last winter. I would probably change a few things if I were headed in the opposite direction to avoid some hills, especially if you're loaded with some touring gear, but in general, this would be my approach.

    Looks like you'll be passing directly pass my house, so if you need a pit stop to refuel, bathroom, coffee, escape the elements, bike work, etc. you are more than welcome to drop on in if I'm home. I could also get you a list of local bike shops should you need some emergency work. You'll passing quite a few.

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    Just a quickie post for now: Thanks for the info - much appreciated. Going to look at your route after I get back from food shopping. I'll post again later today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88 rex View Post
    That was my route from last winter. I would probably change a few things if I were headed in the opposite direction to avoid some hills, especially if you're loaded with some touring gear, but in general, this would be my approach.

    Looks like you'll be passing directly pass my house, so if you need a pit stop to refuel, bathroom, coffee, escape the elements, bike work, etc. you are more than welcome to drop on in if I'm home. I could also get you a list of local bike shops should you need some emergency work. You'll passing quite a few.
    I took a quick look at the route you took. I did not zoom in real close yet for a real detailed look. Is this a bike path route? Lots of turns.

    Thanks for your offer. Of course this depends on if I follow through and do route 1 across the Susquehanna this time as opposed to route 372. I know this will also depend on the day of the week and the time (it is possible I will do that 'wee hours' thing you mentioned at Conowingo).

    I will not be loaded down with touring gear - just a small backpack for my immediate needs and basic bike needs (if certain needs arise).

    Your house is along my projected route? It'd be interesting if you spotted me. I will tell you that since I had to part with my Cannondale Super Six Hi Mod (thanks to the economy), I do not in any way look like an experienced or serious cyclist. I am riding an extremely basic and retro steel road bike. Even though many would see me as having gotten out of a Ferrari and into an old beat up Dodge, I still do okay out there. Also, no state of the art cycling attire. These days (aside from my slender build), I look like the last person anyone would figure to be on an interstate ride .

    I'll P.M. you and we can exchange info if you like. I am aiming for my first ride to Philly/New York to happen the first or second week in April.
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    I drive that way a lot. That is an epic ride, huge hills. Lot's of traffic and trucks so be careful. There are bike signs for some of the ride but the rest would just be shoulder riding.

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    Rex's route isn't that crazy. There are a lot of options on back roads to Wilmington. Nothing really flat though.

    273 has a wide shoulder although it is marred by warning track grooved pavement just on the white line until you cross into Delaware. Easily avoided for the most part but teeth chattering if you have to ride over it. There are a few river or creek valleys between Newark and Wilmington. The hills will come from there.

    Give us some warning before your trip. Maybe we can help somehow.

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    I know this is an older post, I was drawn to the post since I am curious about the dam too.
    I think 88's route is good, esp if you are just passing through. As stated above there are also alot of back roads you can take to escape 273 and Newark, esp if you are OK with more miles and have a gps. I ride in the area alot and tend to avoid sections of 273 since it's one of the more busy in the area and it's not the most bike friendly anymore (there is a huge shoulder which great, then they went and through in grooves as stated above). BTW, I live in MD and ride in the area a lot (daily)
    This is a nice rolling farm route so you'll enjoy it.

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    Thanks for the posts. It's been a few weeks since I was here last. The winter has been mild in southern Virginia (though windy), and I have been riding a lot. Did my first century for 2013 just after my last post, and rode my second century today (130 total miles). So the body is up for the ride, and my plans are to go near the height of the moon phase in April (I plan on riding pretty much straight through, so in addition to lights on the bike, the moon will help make me more visible not to mention give some good illumination on the road, eapecially if I leave here at midnight and am riding through the Virginia middle of nowhere). I am still undecided whether or not to take the Conowingo. Who knows, my final decision may not happen until I am where I really have to decide which would be in the Bel Air area at the latest. If I should decide to go my usual route, it is the Bel Air area where I make my way to the route 372 bridge in Pennsylvania and ride through Amish Country.

    Quote Originally Posted by jdwertz View Post
    I drive that way a lot. That is an epic ride, huge hills. Lot's of traffic and trucks so be careful. There are bike signs for some of the ride but the rest would just be shoulder riding.
    As much cycling as I have done - even in that general area, I have never done 273 on a bike. I have driven it many times. I know traffic can be hectic, especially over the Conowingo where there is no room whatsoever (which is why I sort of questioned the legality of cycling over the dam in spite of D.O.T. and cycling maps saying you can), and so am more considering a crossing in the wee hours. Actually it's the hills I get tired of after a few hundred miles. It's basically nothing but hills from here to philly if I do my usual route. Route 273 from route 1 to Newark is very similar to the entire ride as a whole. If I take the Conowingo, I will have maybe 50 miles of relatively flat riding which will be a welcome change.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dream Plus View Post
    Rex's route isn't that crazy. There are a lot of options on back roads to Wilmington. Nothing really flat though.

    273 has a wide shoulder although it is marred by warning track grooved pavement just on the white line until you cross into Delaware. Easily avoided for the most part but teeth chattering if you have to ride over it. There are a few river or creek valleys between Newark and Wilmington. The hills will come from there.

    Give us some warning before your trip. Maybe we can help somehow.
    I won't see anything flat until I am near the Delaware . I was asked what the total climbing is on the trip. I wonder if I want to know. I probably will not know until I can become a premium member of iMapMyRide, but estimating in a very basic way, I would not be surprised to learn my total climbing may exceed 20,000 feet. Lots of rolling hills (especially through Virginia) which add up over a few hundred miles. I do not have a triple crank, and my smallest chain ring is 42, so it is a workout. Last year my best time to Philly from here (about 360 miles) was a bit under 30 hours. It'd be interesting to see if 50 flat miles saves me some time (going over the Conowingo would in itself save me about 15 miles).

    I will be posting about a week before I leave. Maybe I'll know then what route I will take once I am north of Baltimore.

    The warning grooves you mentioned - do they cross the entire shoulder? If so, that could be a deal breaker for me. 700c x 25 tires with 100 PSI will not make that a comfy ride. I will have a bit of a sore butt by the time I get there (after 300 miles), so...... Well, I may not want to deal with warning grooves .

    Quote Originally Posted by S2k552m View Post
    I know this is an older post, I was drawn to the post since I am curious about the dam too.
    I think 88's route is good, esp if you are just passing through. As stated above there are also alot of back roads you can take to escape 273 and Newark, esp if you are OK with more miles and have a gps. I ride in the area alot and tend to avoid sections of 273 since it's one of the more busy in the area and it's not the most bike friendly anymore (there is a huge shoulder which great, then they went and through in grooves as stated above). BTW, I live in MD and ride in the area a lot (daily)
    This is a nice rolling farm route so you'll enjoy it.
    Well this is only a couple of months old. Besides, maybe some of the posts will be useful to someone else over time.

    I agree 88's route is good; however, because of the miles I will have already gone, I will most likely not want to add miles even if it means riding a better (less traffic) route. Last year I did the Roanoke area to Philly ride a number of times. It varied from near 3 days (because of weather - I hate riding in the rain) to less than 30 hours. A few times, after a 3 day rest in Philly, I continued to N.Y.C. (about 7 hours). Maybe if I intentionally make it a two or three day ride, I'd take some of the routes that add miles since time would not be a factor. But admittedly once I am within 100 miles of Philly, all I want to do is get the rest of the ride over with . I can relate to what you mention about 273 not being bike friendly. I do a lot of riding in Bedford County, Virginia. I am on Route 122 between Bedford and Rocky Mount a lot, and for this being the hick middle of nowhere, traffic is horrendous on route 122, and it's highway speed traffic (55+ MPH) and there are many semi trucks. It's almost like being between two major cities like Baltimore and Philadelphia, but such is not the case here. This is not a booming business area nor a high population area, so I've yet to figure out why there is so much traffic in Bedford County, Va.. That said, I don't think 273 will be any worse . I do like the scenery along 273 and would like to see it by bike. I also love Pennsylvania Dutch (Amish) country, so I am in a perfect balance for various reasons of trying to decide whether to go my usual route, or take the Conowingo and route 273.
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    273 is not that bad. The grooves only extend about a foot into the shoulder. At low traffic times, the damn will be over before you know it. I ride on 273 all the time, as do many others. I think Rte 1 out near Belair is designated as a bike route. Rte 1 from Conowingo to 273 is a road I've ridden many times. No problems there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream Plus View Post
    273 is not that bad. The grooves only extend about a foot into the shoulder. At low traffic times, the damn will be over before you know it. I ride on 273 all the time, as do many others. I think Rte 1 out near Belair is designated as a bike route. Rte 1 from Conowingo to 273 is a road I've ridden many times. No problems there.

    Thanks Dream Plus. As long as rumble (warning) strips do not extend all the way across, I am happy. I know after a few hundred miles, I'd be whining, cranky and complaining dealing with rumbles every 5 feet for who knows how long - LOL . I am very interested in the ride via 273 because I'd like to see it by bike. I never rode it, but I know from driving it, it is nice as S2k552m stated it is. Heck, I've done all my trips last year via 372 and Amish Country in Pa.. The Conowingo and 273 will give me a scenery change once I am past Bel Air, and near 50 miles of mostly flat riding to boot into N.E. Philly (once I am in the Newark area), which would be a bit more than 10% of my ride. That's something at least . I hope to have my mind made up before I leave .
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    Haven't crossed the damn yet by bike. Live close to it and ride in the area though. I don't think it will be a problem. It is very narrow for a couple hundred feet, but then widens at least a little bit. Think that as long as you don't hit it at rush hour or something, it would be no problem. Probably be a nicer "less hilly"" ride than if you take 74 up to 372 to cross the other way.

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    Yea, the 273 rumblestrips aren't a big deal. They aren't wide and you still have plenty of shoulder. When I made my trip I was on a singlespeed with 50x19 gearing, a heavy pack, temps in the 20's......and a headwind. It's definitely rolling hills, but very managable.

    If you stick to your original plan of going straight through Newark and then through Wilmington it will definitely be flatter but much more congested. Sometimes thats a good thing, sometimes a bad thing......just rider preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashtestdummy View Post
    Haven't crossed the damn yet by bike. Live close to it and ride in the area though. I don't think it will be a problem. It is very narrow for a couple hundred feet, but then widens at least a little bit. Think that as long as you don't hit it at rush hour or something, it would be no problem. Probably be a nicer "less hilly"" ride than if you take 74 up to 372 to cross the other way.
    It's been a while since I drove across the Conowingo, but I do remember how tight it is, especially in that one little area. I know Dream Plus saying the ride across (which is less than a mile) will be over before I know it is true. But I might prefer the 'wee hours' idea though (especially if it's on a weekday), when I can get across and only worry about maybe a few vehicles.

    The rides I did last year from here to Philly and New York, I always went either on 24 or 543 to 165 through Pylesville and Whiteford which turns into 74. Then 372 over the Susquehanna and through Amish Country (past the Strasburg RR - etc.) which I really enjoy. But the hills are not attractive to me after a full day in the saddle and a few hundred miles. They are no bigger than the hills around here, but after all that riding, they seem like they are 50% grades and 5,000 foot climbs - LOL . I hope I do talk myself into route 1 and route 273. I'd like to see it by bike at least in one of the directions - preferrably both. The flat terrain will be a welcome change (and rest) for the ride from Newark to Philly.


    Quote Originally Posted by 88 rex View Post
    Yea, the 273 rumblestrips aren't a big deal. They aren't wide and you still have plenty of shoulder. When I made my trip I was on a singlespeed with 50x19 gearing, a heavy pack, temps in the 20's......and a headwind. It's definitely rolling hills, but very managable.

    If you stick to your original plan of going straight through Newark and then through Wilmington it will definitely be flatter but much more congested. Sometimes thats a good thing, sometimes a bad thing......just rider preference.
    Cool. As long as I do not have to ride on rumble strips, I'll be happy. By that point, I will be wanting to 'baby' myself as well as the bike. I am sure I will manage the hills. Last year's trips were through hillier terrain going to the route 372 bridge, and I managed that (while grumbling ).

    Not only do I have the interest in seeing 273 by bike, but I have an interest in the nearly 50 flat terrain miles. After 300 miles of mostly hills, that will be a nice change (and welcome rest). As for congestion: I probably will not mind that too much. It will keep me alert, and the forced slower speeds will give me rest .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldermileeater View Post
    The rides I did last year from here to Philly and New York, I always went either on 24 or 543 to 165 through Pylesville and Whiteford which turns into 74. Then 372 over the Susquehanna and through Amish Country (past the Strasburg RR - etc.) which I really enjoy. But the hills are not attractive to me after a full day in the saddle and a few hundred miles. They are no bigger than the hills around here, but after all that riding, they seem like they are 50% grades and 5,000 foot climbsst .
    If you pass 24 and 543 and then decide not to go over the damn, take 136 to 165. Most of that section has wide shoulders, and to me is much better than 543.

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    Well I thought I'd come back to my thread here and give an up-date. I will not be able to start out at the April Full Moon, but I do not want to wait for the May Moon. So it looks like I'll be leaving about the second week of May. I like the illumination the Moon gives at night (especially in the middle of nowhere where it really gets dark), but I'll leave Bedford Country, Va at Dawn, which should have me at about Spotsylvania or Fredricksburg at around sunset. Once on Route 1, I should have lots of street lit areas so I can see farther than my headlight will allow (for road hazards - etc.). I am STILL undecided of my route across the Susquehanna, but am leaning to talking myself into the Conowingo (Route 1). Much as I love the ride through Pennsylvania Dutch Country, going via Route 1 will be less hills and less nasty ugly hills. If I take the Conowingo, I know I want to time it when traffic is lighter.


    Quote Originally Posted by crashtestdummy View Post
    If you pass 24 and 543 and then decide not to go over the damn, take 136 to 165. Most of that section has wide shoulders, and to me is much better than 543.

    Thanks for this advice. I'll look at it on Google or Map Quest or something, and also look at different surface views to see what it looks like. I'll keep this in mind in case I decide last minute to not take the Conowingo.
    It takes me up to 4 times longer to get there than it would driving, but I get there :) .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldermileeater View Post
    Well I thought I'd come back to my thread here and give an up-date. ...

    Thanks for this advice. I'll look at it on Google or Map Quest or something,
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    The google maps Street View shows the road from the GoogleMappingVehicle view. ... Don't know the date on their pics.
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    You could put up a large handwritten sign as you start across:

    " WARNING - CHECK RADIATION BADGE BEFORE PROCEEDING "
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    Should have that lane all to yourself ... at least until HomelandSecurity arrives.
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    Used this approach in the office when folks were using a our semi-private hallway as a shortcut. Yep, no more through hikers in that hallway. : )
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