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    Quote Originally Posted by oily666 View Post
    Had dinner with Russian couple last Saturday night. From their knowledge and experience, Putin's (KGB) finger prints are all over Trump and the election. Russia's manipulating politics everywhere.
    What were these Russians doing in the USA? Sounds like they might be plants to stoke the fires of liberal unrest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrico View Post
    Quick, change your passwords; we've been raped! Our national privacy has been invaded! Lock and load!
    Not just ours but most of our western allies. Most people think it is bizarre that after these repeated attacks that Trump still chose to embrace the troll.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrico View Post
    Please enlighten me on what the end game is specifically in Putin's grand design?
    Putin does not have an end game. He does not have anything. As Merkel said

    "He's afraid of his own weakness. Russia has nothing, no successful politics or economy. All they have is this."

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    http://www.economist.com/news/leader...vladimir-putin

    Good overview of how stupid Trump's embrace of Putin is.

    They make a good point that it is not only the DNC, GOP, and Western Allies who think Trump is nuts for appeasing Putin but also Trump's own cabinet thinks he is nuts

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    Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort wanted for questioning in Ukraine corruption case

    It is bizarre that Trump hired this clown to manage his campaign

    Former Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort wanted for questioning in Ukraine corruption case - CNNPolitics.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrico View Post
    So the sanctions are an act of war against the Russian oligarchs? This provides a scapegoat used by the repressive Putin government to carry on, not surprisingly raising his popularity. Economic sanctions have never worked. Yet the US keeps imposing them as a regular tool of foreign policy. A mistake brought on by hubris, not far behind it, fear.

    How about this? Russia resumes leasing Crimea, and gets the Russian insurgents to stop shooting at each other in this ridiculous standoff. Ukraine trades with the west, but doesn't join NATO. Anyone think Putin would reject that offer?

    Oh, and a cease fire in Syria. They've been killing each other for way too long and need to rebuild. A little arm twisting by US and Russia would be all it takes.
    Yeah, sure. So we should do whatever we can just so Putin doesn't feel the sadz. [deleted by moderator]
    Eff the King's Guard. Eff the city. Eff the King.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    Yeah, sure. So we should do whatever we can just so Putin doesn't feel the sadz. [deleted by moderator]
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    More Americans wanted Hillary Clinton to be President than wanted Donald Trump.

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    While Trump embraces Putin as his BFF the rest of the world is appalled by his actions.

    Open Letter of European security experts to Federica Mogherini:
    Please start taking the Russian disinformation threat seriously!

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    Not only does the FBI now say Obama had nothing to do with wiretapping Trump, the FBI also admits the Trump administration is being investigated for Russian connections.

    FBI director has 'no information' backing wiretap claims amid probe of possible links between Trump associates, Russians - ABC News

    "And we have looked carefully inside the FBI. The Department of Justice has asked me to share with you that the answer is the same for the Department of Justice and all its components. The department has no information that supports those tweets.


    When asked whether President Obama could even unilaterally order a wiretap, Comey said, "No president could."


    That should be the end of it and an apology should be forthcoming to Obama, but theorists love their conspiracies and their fake news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ullr View Post
    Not only does the FBI now say Obama had nothing to do with wiretapping Trump, the FBI also admits the Trump administration is being investigated for Russian connections.
    I'm watching the hearing now. I haven't seen the entire thing, but the last 10 minutes have been Dems asking questions. Trump and his cabal are being skewered. It remains to see if anything sticks, but the testimony is very damning.

    PS - if Obama had done anything remotely similar to Trump & his circle have done, Repubs wouldn't be happy w/ impeachment; they'd be demanding a hanging
    What's the Matter with Kansas?

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    The key take away from these hearings is that Putin, and his thugs, are scum.

    Which makes Trump embrace of them all the more bizarre

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    Quote Originally Posted by feh View Post
    I'm watching the hearing now. I haven't seen the entire thing, but the last 10 minutes have been Dems asking questions. Trump and his cabal are being skewered. It remains to see if anything sticks, but the testimony is very damning.

    PS - if Obama had done anything remotely similar to Trump & his circle have done, Repubs wouldn't be happy w/ impeachment; they'd be demanding a hanging
    And you lefties would just circle the wagons and scream RACIST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakebit View Post
    And you lefties would just circle the wagons and scream RACIST.
    Another derp.

    Do you have any thoughts on Trump colluding w/ a foreign government to interfere w/ US elections? Please, defend the Donald; this is your chance to go on record supporting treason.
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    MOSCOW (The Borowitz Report)—Capping an extraordinary year for the former television host, the Kremlin has named Donald J. Trump its Employee of the Month for April.
    “No one has worked more tirelessly for the glory of the Fatherland than Donald Trump,” the Russian President Vladimir Putin said in an official statement. “He has set a high bar for all Kremlin employees, and for that, we salute him.”
    To mark the honor, Trump’s name will be added to a plaque that hangs in the hallway outside the Kremlin’s H.R. office.
    According to Kremlin sources, Trump faced tough competition in the Employee of the Month voting, besting both Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and ExxonMobil’s C.E.O., Rex Tillerson.
    Speaking to reporters at his Mar-a-Lago estate, in Florida, Trump called the award “a tremendous honor, just tremendous.”
    “Obama was President for eight years and he didn’t win this a single month,” he said. “Loser.”
    More Americans wanted Hillary Clinton to be President than wanted Donald Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feh View Post
    Another derp.

    Do you have any thoughts on Trump colluding w/ a foreign government to interfere w/ US elections? Please, defend the Donald; this is your chance to go on record supporting treason.
    I'll have some thoughts when there is some evidence ..

    Comey left a lot of open doors .. they have been investigating since July ? No evidence . No leaks like other stuff. Seems like a smear campaign at this moment


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    Quote Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post
    I'll have some thoughts when there is some evidence ..

    Comey left a lot of open doors .. they have been investigating since July ? No evidence . No leaks like other stuff. Seems like a smear campaign at this moment


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    Hmm. Comey said there was no evidence of an Obama wiretap, either, as the Trumpency continues to claim there was.

    FBI Director James Comey: Trump campaign, Russia ties investigated, no wiretap evidence - CNNPolitics.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by feh View Post
    Another derp.

    Do you have any thoughts on Trump colluding w/ a foreign government to interfere w/ US elections? Please, defend the Donald; this is your chance to go on record supporting treason.
    Speaking of derps.

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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/comey-c...nks-1490025014

    "Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey confirmed for the first time Monday that his agency is involved in an investigation into links between the Russian government and the 2016 campaign of President Donald Trump. Mr. Comey at a congressional hearing also said for the first time that there is 'no information' that supports Mr. Trump’s repeated claims that former President Barack Obama wiretapped him during the campaign.

    At the same hearing, Adm. Michael Rogers agreed with a questioner’s contention that it was 'ridiculous' to suggest that the British intelligence service helped Mr. Obama get information about Mr. Trump’s campaign, an allegation that the White House press secretary alluded to by reading a media report about it during a press briefing last week.

    With that, Mr. Comey and Adm. Rogers, director of the National Security Agency, repudiated Mr. Trump’s key claims that his predecessor illegally spied on him. The disclosures came at a hearing of the House intelligence committee."

    So, Trumpelstiltskin is being investigated, his claims re wiretapping are still libelous bloviations, as is his claim about the Brits.

    The following suggestion is so good, I wish this were my suggestion, but I read it in the reader comments section of the above article:

    "Just an idea. We invade North Korea. Install Trump as their new Dear Leader with instructions to make North Korea Great Again."
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    Quote Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post

    Comey left a lot of open doors .. they have been investigating since July ? No evidence .
    He said that investigations like this take a long time and this was in its early stages.

    He also said Russia is not our friend and Trump lied with he said Obama tapped his phones.

    The FBI only does criminal investigations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Falsetti View Post
    He said that investigations like this take a long time and this was in its early stages.

    He also said Russia is not our friend and Trump lied with he said Obama tapped his phones.

    The FBI only does criminal investigations.
    Did Comey say Trump lied or that they had found no evidence of a wiretap? Perhaps an investigation like this takes a long time too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakebit View Post
    Did Comey say Trump lied or that they had found no evidence of a wiretap? Perhaps an investigation like this takes a long time too.
    Comey said:
    And we have looked carefully inside the FBI. The Department of Justice has asked me to share with you that the answer is the same for the Department of Justice and all its components. The department has no information that supports those tweets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snakebit View Post
    Did Comey say Trump lied or that they had found no evidence of a wiretap? Perhaps an investigation like this takes a long time too.

    You are going with the second option then, that Trump is a complete fecking idiot who doesn't know that the President cannot order a wiretap, and relies on fake news for his intelligence briefings. That's one of two possibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxl View Post
    "Just an idea. We invade North Korea. Install Trump as their new Dear Leader with instructions to make North Korea Great Again."
    Nah. How about Grenada?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post
    I'll have some thoughts when there is some evidence ..

    Comey left a lot of open doors .. they have been investigating since July ? No evidence . No leaks like other stuff. Seems like a smear campaign at this moment


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    Sorry but dems still have a few years left before you ate allowed to talk.
    U can point at Benghazi and email servers and years and millions wasted.

    Please address those cluster before you can say anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakebit View Post
    Did Comey say Trump lied or that they had found no evidence of a wiretap? Perhaps an investigation like this takes a long time too.
    Umm I think you need to remember that trump lies so much that until it is proven to be truthful it is to be assumed to be a lie.


    You are defending a lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timeless View Post
    Sorry but dems still have a few years left before you ate allowed to talk.
    U can point at Benghazi and email servers and years and millions wasted.

    Please address those cluster before you can say anything.

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    her email server in a bathroom or whatever is an issue no matter which way you look at it. Sure she was never convicted of anything, but she had one....used it often.. it was hacked and regardless if you like it or not....probably cost her the election more then Bengazi in terms of how the general public viewed her carelessness. REALITY

    Also the fact that the Clinton Foundation GIP is closed... well that tells you all you need to know about that SCAM.... worse then Trump U

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    Quote Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post
    her email server in a bathroom or whatever is an issue no matter which way you look at it. Sure she was never convicted of anything, but she had one....used it often.. it was hacked and regardless if you like it or not....probably cost her the election more then Bengazi in terms of how the general public viewed her carelessness. REALITY
    Again 2 years and nothing came of it.

    So 2 years of dog pony show that was a smear campaign. So yeah conservative have a you still have zero room to talk as this is only 2 months in and gop has been blocking any thing to looking into it.

    So sorry if your chosen lair and idiot in charge is getting press on him. You still have no room talk.

    I am sorry if you do not like your chosen hateful idiot in charge is being called out on selling us out. Does not change get the fact that it is happening.
    You are not allowed to call it a smear campaign for at least another year. Big time as long as you refuse to call email or Benghazi a smear by the party of hate and bigotry (gop) that you seem to support.

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