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    Evil Republican CEO gets revenge on Florida for voting Obama

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    In the largest staff reduction in its nearly 100-year history, Orlando Health is cutting up to 400 jobs starting immediately, hospital system officials announced Monday.

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    Orlando Health officials called the cost-cutting moves necessary.

    "Health-care reform mandates and changes in reimbursement structures for Medicare and Medicaid are forcing health-care organizations throughout the U.S. to confront new challenges,"
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    shorter Orlando Health: "We'll blame a 0.025% reduction in staff on the ACA."

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    What does it all mean?

    1. Does this mean Floridians who voted for Obama get the credit for forcing a restructuring in the system that is effectively doing a little (probably tiny) something to contain upwardly spiraling health care costs?

    2. How much will Orlando Health's staff increase by over the next five years due Florida for voting Obama?

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    Does anybody expect to get health CARE costs under control without affecting staffing? Staffing is the largest single component of the health care system.
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    my hospital layed off about 10% of its staff at the start of the recession...since then the staff has grown about 15%. restructuring always means somebody's job is affected. More will be hired. Health care is 17% of the nation's GDP and growing.

    nice try though...jobs lost through attrition? oh, the horror.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel Erickson View Post
    Does anybody expect to get health CARE costs under control without affecting staffing? Staffing is the largest single component of the health care system.
    As it should be. If being a neurosurgeon paid 10 bucks an hour, no one smart enough to be a neurosurgeon would elect to go into the field in the first place.

    As far as fixing the cost of healthcare, a great way to start would be to stop cost shifting. That would look something like this.

    National average for inguinal hernia repair (cost shifting): $7,100.00
    Inguinal Hernia Repair Surgery Cost Comparison | NewChoiceHealth.com

    Surgery Center of Oklahoma (cash or certified check only): $3,060.00

    Surgery Center of Oklahoma

    That $3,060.00 covers the facility, the surgeon and the anesthesiologist. All prices and exceptions are clearly disclosed up front as are the center's post op infection rate which is well below the national average.

    That's less than half the national average. Just don't expect them to take Medicaid, Medicare, insurance or credit cards.

    Seems fairly simple to me.

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    Cost shifting doesn't mean the costs aren't there. They're still in the health care economy. They get paid one way or the other. There are many ways to increase efficiency and lower costs within the health care system that would not affect outcomes. In fact, there are many ways to both reduce costs and improve outcomes, even in our model of health care and health insurance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel Erickson View Post
    Does anybody expect to get health CARE costs under control without affecting staffing? Staffing is the largest single component of the health care system.
    Same thing with the cost of government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel Erickson View Post
    Does anybody expect to get health CARE costs under control without affecting staffing? Staffing is the largest single component of the health care system.
    Yeah, try sitting over six hours in an emergency room will your wife is in pain and should be looked at immediately only to see the staff playing grab-ass with each other or socializing instead of working. Sorry, I have no sympathy for a the deadwood we have infesting our hospitals getting the ax. We need to cut our losses and streamline the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue CheeseHead View Post
    Same thing with the cost of government.
    Not exactly. Government at the local level has seen significant cutting in the past 10 years. However, the powers that be (ne: elected officials) haven't cut programs. Fewer people, same service expected. Many local governments have been at or beyond their ability to provide expected services. So tell me, what services don't you want to get? Then convince enough of your fellow citizens to support you and run for office so you can cut them. Just don't expect the same or more services while cutting staff, particularly at the local level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsushita View Post
    Yeah, try sitting over six hours in an emergency room will your wife is in pain and should be looked at immediately only to see the staff playing grab-ass with each other or socializing instead of working. Sorry, I have no sympathy for a the deadwood we have infesting our hospitals getting the ax. We need to cut our losses and streamline the system.
    were these grab-ass employees you witnessed actually responsible for or able to provide your wife with care? If your wife was still breathing on her own, she didn't need to be looked at immediately. Not in most ED's - yours might be poorly run, I don't know. I will agree there are systematic changes needed in health care delivery and the physician-centered paradigm needs to change dramatically to a patient-centered paradigm.

    this article wasn't really about any of that though...
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