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    Quote Originally Posted by Opus51569 View Post
    If Evangelicals, arguably the most conservative of Christian conservatives, are willing to ignore their own Commandments to justify Trump*s actions, why should anyone feel bound by those same Commandments? If you’ve got a problem with this question, great. So do, I. Try asking it to Evangelicals who voted and continue to defend Trump*.
    There is a good reason Evangelicals voted for and continue to defend Trump. Two words: Court appointments. He has an "R" next to his name and appoints conservative judges to the courts. Evangelicals are obsessed with abortion and gay rights at the cost of all other moral issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    There is a good reason Evangelicals voted for and continue to defend Trump. Two words: Court appointments. He has an "R" next to his name and appoints conservative judges to the courts. Evangelicals are obsessed with abortion and gay rights at the cost of all other moral issues.

    It is quite funny...A country founded on enlightenment ideas, devolving into a country run by superstitious quacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    It is quite funny...A country founded on enlightenment ideas, devolving into a country run by superstitious quacks.
    I don't know, slavery, witch hangings, don't make it sound like America was a 'woke' paradise at the beginning. Sounds more like a country getting back to it's roots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimb100 View Post
    I don't know, slavery, witch hangings, don't make it sound like America was a 'woke' paradise at the beginning. Sounds more like a country getting back to it's roots.
    So that’s what Trump* means by making America great again!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimb100 View Post
    I don't know, slavery, witch hangings, don't make it sound like America was a 'woke' paradise at the beginning. Sounds more like a country getting back to it's roots.

    All men are created equal born with certain inalienable rights...except for all the heathens and slaves and women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velodog View Post
    Does this mean that Catholics aren't counted as Christians either?

    Which Christian religions are counted and which aren't counted in an umbrella statement about voting Christians.
    Catholics worship the Pope, ya know. That's a nono. Catholics have veered from the truth! Not too long ago, American evangelicals were whispering across the pews grave suspicions that Pope Pius was the Anti-Christ! So Catholics are suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrico View Post
    Catholics worship the Pope, ya know. That's a nono. Catholics have veered from the truth! Not too long ago, American evangelicals were whispering across the pews grave suspicions that Pope Pius was the Anti-Christ! So Catholics are suspect.

    I see you're as much an expert on Catholicism as everything else. At least you don't bother with pretense and simply do drive-by admissions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    I see you're as much an expert on Catholicism as everything else. At least you don't bother with pretense and simply do drive-by admissions.
    Hey look, this is straight out of the halls of the Plymouth Brethren slightly before WW2. I got it from Mom.

    When word got out Hitler was exterminating the Jews, the Brethren decided he must have been the anti-Christ. I have no idea who their current anti-Christ is. Obama was certainly suspect due to his dark skin and nappy hair. Trump gets off! How is that possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Opus51569 View Post
    So that’s what Trump* means by making America great again!
    Precisely. Well, maybe not slavery and witch burnings. Possible the Gilded Age or even the Jim Crow days would probably be good enough for Trump to qualify for "America's greatness".
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    Mitch McConnell during the Monica Lewinsky scandal:

    “We can do the right thing. Or we can lower our standards and allow Bill Clinton to cling to public office — regardless of the consequences to our nation.”
    What has the turtle said about the multiple porn stars Trump has had affairs with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Falsetti View Post
    Mitch McConnell during the Monica Lewinsky scandal:



    What has the turtle said about the multiple porn stars Trump has had affairs with?
    Whatever the NRA and his other masters tell him.

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    They those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The problem is you can't teach stupid and history is taught in a classroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Falsetti View Post
    Mitch McConnell during the Monica Lewinsky scandal:

    What has the turtle said about the multiple porn stars Trump has had affairs with?
    Party line - "he denies them all, and so I believe him". Denial is the starting point in this weird "defend our clan" game.
    Next, when they get caught, undeniably so, all previous comments were "quips, jokes", or now "campaign talk".
    Then, they are forgiven, in the true Christian way.
    This only applies to our clan (klan?).
    All others, burn at the stake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z'mer View Post
    Party line - "he denies them all, and so I believe him". Denial is the starting point in this weird "defend our clan" game.
    Next, when they get caught, undeniably so, all previous comments were "quips, jokes", or now "campaign talk".
    Then, they are forgiven, in the true Christian way.
    This only applies to our clan (klan?).
    All others, burn at the stake.
    Pretty much. Though that didn't seem to work for Larry Craig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    All men are created equal born with certain inalienable rights...except for all the heathens and slaves and women.
    Too many people have bought into the notion that America is and has been a shining city on a hill, Camelot-like in its purity and beauty.

    Of course, that's a crock. How do can you solve problems if you can't admit they exist?

    Republican's vacillate between everything is wonderful when they control the government to everything is sh!t when the dems are in charge.

    Dumb Americans get right in line. Its why the founders wanted to limit the vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    Pretty much. Though that didn't seem to work for Larry Craig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    Pretty much. Though that didn't seem to work for Larry Craig.
    Yes, good 'ole toe tapping Larry, aka "wide stance".
    He made a few, no many mistakes in that case that basically chained an anchor to his leg while he slipped off the deck.

    First, he pleaded guilty to the 2007 airport bathroom incident. It was amplified by behavior that is unforgivable to THAT party - being married and having an affair is bad.
    But, this was about having a gay affair.

    When it blew up, he spent an incredible amount of time and legal fees trying to undo that guilty plea, which was for a misdemeanor that he signed and mailed in like a traffic ticket.
    Despite all that, he finished his senate term.

    After he was out, the pain continued. He had spent $217K of campaign funds for legal defense fees, trying numerous times to undo his misdemeanor guilty plea. All of which failed.

    In June 2012, the Federal Election Commission sued Craig for repayment of $217,000 of campaign funds plus fines of $6,500 from the former Senator and his treasurer, Kaye O'Riordan. Craig used the money to pay for his defense in the case.

    In an August 2012 filing, Craig's lawyer Andrew Herman wrote "Not only was the trip itself constitutionally required, but Senate rules sanction reimbursement for any cost relating to a senator's use of a bathroom while on official travel";
    On March 4, 2016, the Court of Appeals upheld the lower court ruling and ordered Craig to pay $242,533 to the United States Treasury Department.
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    More fine, Christian morals

    If white evangelicals are willing to overlook any and all of Trump*s faults because they see in him a protector, the question is... why.

    The answer, I think, comes down to this ridiculous notion that Christianity is somehow under attack in this modern world.

    (Jay, this is the point where you’ll want to remind us all once again of just how many Christians there are on the planet)

    So, evangelicals are selling their morality for a lie akin to the ginned up “War on Christmas” Faux News trots out every year?

    Happy Holidays.

    Then again, it might help if there was more of a consensus about what constitutes “moral” behavior....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opus51569 View Post
    If white evangelicals are willing to overlook any and all of Trump*s faults because they see in him a protector, the question is... why.

    The answer, I think, comes down to this ridiculous notion that Christianity is somehow under attack in this modern world.

    (Jay, this is the point where you’ll want to remind us all once again of just how many Christians there are on the planet)

    So, evangelicals are selling their morality for a lie akin to the ginned up “War on Christmas” Faux News trots out every year?

    Happy Holidays.

    Then again, it might help if there was more of a consensus about what constitutes “moral” behavior....

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    Three-quarters of Trump voters also contend that, even if Daniels’ allegations are true, they are not relevant to Trump’s presidency. In fact, they claim to be barely concerned about a president’s private life at all: Seventy percent say an elected official who has committed an “immoral act” in his or her personal life can still behave ethically and fulfill duties in the public and professional sphere.

    They're right.

    Jack Kennedy partied with the 'hos in the White House swimming pool, and got Nikita's respect big time! It didn't slow him down one whit. Bill Clinton acted with moral righteousness in world affairs and ended his term an elder statesman. How they get off is their business. I really don't care.

    Ahem. What exactly is the big deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrico View Post
    Three-quarters of Trump voters also contend that, even if Daniels’ allegations are true, they are not relevant to Trump’s presidency. In fact, they claim to be barely concerned about a president’s private life at all: Seventy percent say an elected official who has committed an “immoral act” in his or her personal life can still behave ethically and fulfill duties in the public and professional sphere.

    They're right.

    Jack Kennedy partied with the 'hos in the White House swimming pool, and got Nikita's respect big time! It didn't slow him down one whit. Bill Clinton acted with moral righteousness in world affairs and ended his term an elder statesman. How they get off is their business. I really don't care.

    Ahem. What exactly is the big deal?
    Sure they are right, but during the last administration only slightly over thirty percent of those same evangelicals felt that way. The point of this thread is how hypocritical those people have proven to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradkay View Post
    Sure they are right, but during the last administration only slightly over thirty percent of those same evangelicals felt that way. The point of this thread is how hypocritical those people have proven to be.
    Yeah but the evangelical voters are only half the total Trump voters. So 30% of evangelicals could feel the same way now as back then. They would be the 25% caring about that issue today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrico View Post
    Yeah but the evangelical voters are only half the total Trump voters. So 30% of evangelicals could feel the same way now as back then. They would be the 25% caring about that issue today.
    Not sure whether your math only reversed one side of the equation or whether you are saying 40% hypocrisy is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrico View Post
    ...What exactly is the big deal?
    The cover-up.

    You may recall this very thing got another president impeached.
    More Americans wanted Hillary Clinton to be President than wanted Donald Trump.

    Donald Trump has never had a wife he didn't cheat on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxl View Post
    The cover-up.

    You may recall this very thing got another president impeached.
    True. Where is Trump*s blunt honesty now?

    If it’s no big deal and if his base doesn’t seem to care, why isn’t he bragging about his exploits rather than paying hush money???

    Could it be somewhere, beneath the haze of idiocy, Trump* knows what “presidential” is supposed to look like and sees how he doesn’t measure up?


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    Quote Originally Posted by xxl View Post
    The cover-up.

    You may recall this very thing got another president impeached.
    Clinton was impeached not for having an affair, but for two things:

    1) Obstruction of justice.

    2) Lying under oath.

    I'm pretty sure Trump could be brought up on at least the first charge.
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