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    POPE WATCH 2013: White Smoke Spotted

    No name of the new pontiff yet, but whoever he is let's hope he doesn't spread the same shame as Ratzinger.

    Cardinals elect new pope – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

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    The popestack has spoken!

    Perhaps he was just enjoying a cigarette?


    I'd be excited even if they'd proclaimed "Habemus Papadum". I love papadum.

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    It's the Argentine, according to the WSJ.

    He'll be Pope Francis.

    Let me be the first to tell him "Congratulations, and lighten up, Francis."

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    Did I just hear Shep Smith ask if the new Pope could speak Latin?????
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    Another cranky old white man...in an organization of cranky old white men...who'd a thunk.
    Man. You are all stuped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwl325


    Did I just hear Shep Smith ask if the new Pope could speak Latin?????



    when a cable network is entertainment and propaganda masquerading as news, it really shows when an actual "news event" occurs in real-time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwl325 View Post
    Did I just hear Shep Smith ask if the new Pope could speak Latin?????
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    A friend of mine just corrected me (I haven't rechecked), but I'm told Shep asked if the new Pope could speak "Italian", not "Latin". My mistake, sorry for any confusion....though, given the fact the dude's a Cardinal, and his father was Italian, actually She's question seems even more absurd than I originally thought.

    The important thing is he apparently carried Ohio.
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    He's 76 with one lung.

    Good luck Francis.
    If you don't get an answer to your question it doesn't necessary mean you made one or that you deserve one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troutmd View Post
    He's 76 with one lung.

    Good luck Francis.

    He lost the lung at age 7, he's probably good with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbill View Post
    He lost the lung at age 7, he's probably good with it.
    I sure hope so Bill and that's why I offer him my best wishes. Pope Francis has a tough road ahead. He inherits a church wrestling with an array of challenges:

    *** a shortage of priests;

    *** evangelicals aggressive recruitment efforts in the Southern Hemisphere;

    *** the seemingly never ending church sexual abuse tragedy eroding Catholic moral authority; and,

    *** a governing the Vatican in disarray.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    Another cranky old white man...in an organization of cranky old white men...who'd a thunk.
    If only they stopped at crancky. But they are also useless, outdated, irrelevant and a threat to children everywhere.
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    The Onion just announced he's resigned already.
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    Congratulations to all of the Catholic community.

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    half nelson
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    The modern conservative movement.

    That lefties are accusing the new pope of handing over lefties to the right wing junta for execution makes me adore the new pope.

    — Erick Erickson
    I have heard only that Francis was silent when the right wing organized and executed killings were going on, btw. I have not seen, to date, any evidence than he did more than that.

    Francis (don't call him Francis I until after he dies if you want to be proper): Jesuit, chemistry teacher, very very conservative in ideology (including about the poor from what I have heard), pastoral experience and demeanor. Very humble in his first appearance, very personable to my eye given the context. Probably a good choice for the Cardinals, mostly put in place by JP and Benedict and thus conservative. A good face, a good fatherly attitude, yet still doctrinaire.

    And I have to laugh that the first South American pope is.... Italian.
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    His parents immigrated from Italy. 'American' by birth and nationality, that pope is just as Italian as I am.

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    I wonder now if the Vatican will start hosting salsa Fridays and merengue Mondays.

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    There are some nasty comments in this thread but at least one post conratulates our Catholic members and I would like to add my voice to that. I know this is very important in your lives and to the Church and I hope this choice is one you are happy with.

    There is a lot of speculation now but I would like to ask any and all of you who care to respond how you see this effecting Church doctrine and relationships. Will some hard line stances soften or will it be more of the same on issues like birth control? What do you want and expect to see from this Pope?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakebit View Post
    There are some nasty comments in this thread but at least one post conratulates our Catholic members and I would like to add my voice to that. I know this is very important in your lives and to the Church and I hope this choice is one you are happy with.

    There is a lot of speculation now but I would like to ask any and all of you who care to respond how you see this effecting Church doctrine and relationships. Will some hard line stances soften or will it be more of the same on issues like birth control? What do you want and expect to see from this Pope?
    From all I heard...Francis follows the same doctrine towards all the touchy contemporary subjects as his last 2 predecessors.

    No softening...so much as doubling down I'd wager.
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    it appears 'business as usual'
    sad as at first I heard some promising things
    oh well, media spin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    From all I heard...Francis follows the same doctrine towards all the touchy contemporary subjects as his last 2 predecessors.

    No softening...so much as doubling down I'd wager.
    It seems to me that the structure of the Church leadership leaves little room for change. It is led by old men who have a lifetime of doctrine to draw from so change is slower to come than in a govt controlled by popular vote. It may lead to more drift as the Church doctrine separates it from a changing world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atpjunkie View Post
    it appears 'business as usual'
    sad as at first I heard some promising things
    oh well, media spin
    All about what could have been expected, right? Pray for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troutmd View Post
    He's 76 with one lung.

    Good luck Francis.
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    My take on the election is that the cardinals are not in agreement with the future direction that the Church should take and that they consciously have elected another pope who will be expected to reign for a relatively short time so that they will be able to reassess things in five to ten years. Given the precedent that Benedict set by resigning when he was in his mid-80s, I very well could see Francis resigning in five to ten years. When Pope John Paul II died, I heard some commentary that the cardinals did not want another 25+ year reign. Although I am not sure that it would mean any significant change in the conservative direction of the Church on social issues, short term popes could signal greater involvement of the cardinals in the governance of the Church.

    The problem with the Church being governed by old Popes is that they lack the energy and contact with modern times that a relatively younger pope has. Although we now largely remember Pope John Paul II as a doddering old man, he was a vigorous 58 year old when he was elected. There was an excitement and appeal about him in his early years as Pope that was lacking with Benedict and I think will be lacking with Francis.

    I wish Francis and the Church well. I do not expect any Pope in the foreseeable future to agree with me on social issues or take the steps that I think that the Church should take internally (e.g., ordination of women or allow priests to marry). However, the Church has and can be a force for good in the world. Many of us have benefited from the Church's schools (k-12 for me), hospitals and social services. Although the Holy See was the dog that did not bark during WWII (or did not bark loud enough), it has and can bring a moral voice to world affairs.
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