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    Time machine (MN gov't shutdown)?

    Wonder if this is gonna make anybody (Pubs, that is) in DC reconsider the consequences of failing to achieve an increase in the debt ceiling.....

    (and yes, I [i]do[/i[ understand the difference between no budget and a potential default- I just think this makes for an interesting look into the future....)
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    Quote Originally Posted by saf-t View Post
    Wonder if this is gonna make anybody (Pubs, that is) in DC reconsider the consequences of failing to achieve an increase in the debt ceiling.....

    (and yes, I [i]do[/i[ understand the difference between no budget and a potential default- I just think this makes for an interesting look into the future....)
    Problem here in MN is the Repubs gave Governor Dayton the largest budget increase in the history of the State. 12% increase over the biennium. Hardly what the Repubs in DC have in mind.

    An additional $2 Billion per year for a biennium budget of an additional $4 Billion. That includes an additional $100 million per year (x2) above what the State Educators requested for K-12 education funding and an additional $10 million per year (x2) above what the State Educators requested for early childhood development...

    Budget breakdowns have happened in our past - and Governors have called for Temporary Funding Bills to be passed. It was Governor Daytons decision not to call for a Temporary Funding Bill this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saf-t View Post
    Wonder if this is gonna make anybody (Pubs, that is) in DC reconsider the consequences of failing to achieve an increase in the debt ceiling.....

    (and yes, I [i]do[/i[ understand the difference between no budget and a potential default- I just think this makes for an interesting look into the future....)

    Happy days will be here again any time now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerminatorX91 View Post
    Happy days will be here again any time now.
    Essential services are open and nonessential services are closed. There are a lot of happy people today in the land of 10,000 taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnkleChop View Post
    Essential services are open and nonessential services are closed. There are a lot of happy people today in the land of 10,000 taxes.
    Hope yer state parks aren't among the non-essential services, what with the holiday weekend and all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotophage View Post
    Hope yer state parks aren't among the non-essential services, what with the holiday weekend and all...
    They are closed! But lots of options other than State Parks if you want to get out & go camping. Fortunately - we've known that a shutdown has been looming overhead ever since the GOP delivered their budget increase 6 weeks early to Governor Dayton & he didn't touch it...

    There are private campgrounds all across the State. In the Metro area there are campgrounds in the Three Rivers District (Mpls/St. Paul 7 county Metro district) - neighboring States (Metro drive to w/WI to go to Interstate, Willow, Kinnikinnick). All those you need a reservation for - just like a State campground. And I suppose many will be doing what we are doing - heading up to the Superior National forest (for some camping, canoeing & Mt. biking) this afternoons drive should be a blast.....

    We had a shutdown back in 2005 - we were told the State would be paralyzed - it wasn't.
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    Drove by Gooseberry Fall State park yesterday afternoon. Packed as usual w/ tourists - even though it was "closed" due to the State "shutdown".
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    Pff. Amateurs. CA is lucky to have a budget each year.

    We actually just passed a law saying that lawmakers don't get paid when there is no budget, and actually made it easier to pass a budget (majority) and they still didn't have a budget on time this year. They tried to (on the day they would have started losing pay, oddly enough), but our Gov. didn't sign it and forced them to go back and work on it. I believe it just got signed this weekend.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeDaddio View Post
    Pff. Amateurs. CA is lucky to have a budget each year.

    We actually just passed a law saying that lawmakers don't get paid when there is no budget, and actually made it easier to pass a budget (majority) and they still didn't have a budget on time this year. They tried to (on the day they would have started losing pay, oddly enough), but our Gov. didn't sign it and forced them to go back and work on it. I believe it just got signed this weekend.


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    If our lawmakers want to get back to work and resolve the "budget battle" - the Governor needs to call a special session... So far he hasn't...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnkleChop View Post
    If our lawmakers want to get back to work and resolve the "budget battle" - the Governor needs to call a special session... So far he hasn't...
    There's a reason for that. Special sessions come with some special rules...

    http://minnesotabudgetbites.org/2011...special-rules/

    Theoretically they can introduce other legislation, or limited budget bills that are not subject to committee discussion, and they can keep the special session going indefinitely.

    I think that once there is an agreement to the terms, he will call a special session right away. But there has to be agreement first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by physasst View Post
    There's a reason for that. Special sessions come with some special rules..


    Is that why they have always been called "Special Sessions"?



    What we are now finding out - once again - is that a State shutdown isn't that big of a deal to the majority of citizens of Minnesota. Life goes on - State Parks are "closed" but tourists are still visiting them. The MN Zoo is closed but they are still feeding the animals, Canterbury Park and the State Lottery are closed too - but the "gamblers" are going to the tribal run casinos...
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